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Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Sun July 28, 2013 10:26 pm
by harmless
I've just realised how funny it would've been if the song had been called 'Bumming My Way'. The same meaning in the USA, pretty much, but much funnier in the UK.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Sun July 28, 2013 10:28 pm
by LetMeSleep
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:Not thumbing my way boring, but still
I literally just don't understand. I love that song as well.
Really nice lyrics at least
I'm not a fan of TMW either. It's a good song but I don't enjoy it. It sets up You Are beautifully though.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Sun July 28, 2013 11:36 pm
by EJ
harmless wrote:I've just realised how funny it would've been if the song had been called 'Bumming My Way'. The same meaning in the USA, pretty much, but much funnier in the UK.
If it was on Lightning Bolt, it would've been "Humming My Way".

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Sun July 28, 2013 11:38 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:I've just realised how funny it would've been if the song had been called 'Bumming My Way'. The same meaning in the USA, pretty much, but much funnier in the UK.

do you guys still call cigarettes fags?

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Sun July 28, 2013 11:41 pm
by LetMeSleep
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I've just realised how funny it would've been if the song had been called 'Bumming My Way'. The same meaning in the USA, pretty much, but much funnier in the UK.

do you guys still call cigarettes fags?
In the UK you can tuck into some faggots for breakfast.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 12:48 am
by dsb1218
The XM PJ station played a song from a 2009 "Philidelphia" show the other day.

As Mark Twain is alleged to have said, "I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way."

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 3:32 am
by digster
stupidmop wrote:Do we have any demos from songs that show us a drastic difference from whatever the writer came up with to how it ended up? Other than the fixer and puzzles and games maybe?

And when people say Eddie had most control over an album what does that mean about the songs he didn't write? Stuff like tremor christ or something, did he arrange those too or does he just work with what the band/writer gives him? I've always wondered.
Nothing As It Seems and Speed of Sound demos are pretty different than what they ended up doing.

With regard specifically to Tremor Christ, I'm pretty sure that sprung up out of a rehearsal happening in New Orleans, and the song just came together very quickly. Jeff, I think, mentioned that a lot of Vitalogy was coming out of jams at soundchecks and practice (as they were on the road throughout the making as much of it). You can kind of hear that, especially in something like Tremor Christ or Not for You, which pretty much rides that main riff that Ed plays throughout the song.

The band has pretty much said that everybody brings in stuff to varying levels of completion, and it gets arranged, which according to Ed can be an exhaustive process. They write songs in very different ways, either from someone doing music and lyrics on their own or having it spring out of a jam, or parts coming together from several band members. That's why I really hope there's some kind of version of Beatles Anthology one day for PJ; their creative process is probably very interesting.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 10:42 am
by stupidmop
digster wrote:
stupidmop wrote:Do we have any demos from songs that show us a drastic difference from whatever the writer came up with to how it ended up? Other than the fixer and puzzles and games maybe?

And when people say Eddie had most control over an album what does that mean about the songs he didn't write? Stuff like tremor christ or something, did he arrange those too or does he just work with what the band/writer gives him? I've always wondered.
Nothing As It Seems and Speed of Sound demos are pretty different than what they ended up doing.

With regard specifically to Tremor Christ, I'm pretty sure that sprung up out of a rehearsal happening in New Orleans, and the song just came together very quickly. Jeff, I think, mentioned that a lot of Vitalogy was coming out of jams at soundchecks and practice (as they were on the road throughout the making as much of it). You can kind of hear that, especially in something like Tremor Christ or Not for You, which pretty much rides that main riff that Ed plays throughout the song.

The band has pretty much said that everybody brings in stuff to varying levels of completion, and it gets arranged, which according to Ed can be an exhaustive process. They write songs in very different ways, either from someone doing music and lyrics on their own or having it spring out of a jam, or parts coming together from several band members. That's why I really hope there's some kind of version of Beatles Anthology one day for PJ; their creative process is probably very interesting.
Hey I didn't know there was a NAIS demo, pretty cool, jeff sounds different to.than he thought he would. It sounds a lot like the final track to me minus mikes geetar. I really hope there a couple of weird, or atmospheric if you will, Jeff tracks on the new album.

So if a song is written by one band member, but arranged by the rest of the band or ed its still credited to the original writer? I don't know why I'm thinking about this.

It would be awesome if we had a documentary about the making of one of thier albums. Imagine vitalogy,
Stone- " so ed uh changed my song" *seethes*
Ed- " I fixed stones song" * maniacal grin*

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 10:58 am
by Mine
arrangements aren't credited as songwriting.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 11:08 am
by stupidmop
Good to know, thanks!

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 7:01 pm
by twoheadedboy
Ed sped up STBC to punk speeds from the original arrangement that Stone brought in. Also, IIRC, Bu$hleaguer was not originally intended to have spoken verses.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Mon July 29, 2013 7:03 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I've just realised how funny it would've been if the song had been called 'Bumming My Way'. The same meaning in the USA, pretty much, but much funnier in the UK.

do you guys still call cigarettes fags?
Yup.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
twoheadedboy wrote:Ed sped up STBC to punk speeds from the original arrangement that Stone brought in. Also, IIRC, Bu$hleaguer was not originally intended to have spoken verses.
I spent five minutes trying to figure out what song IIRC was. thanks.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 6:22 pm
by Thejambi
What's the deal with groove?

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:11 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
BDB wrote:the app is worthless. half the sections/tabs dont work.

and the candle and zippo? really?
for 10 extra dollars, you can upgrade to a virtual eV-brand zippo
:throwup:
I think I'd rather roll up my $10, and shove it up my ass.
i'd rather you shoved ten bucks up your ass than have FB on an album

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:12 pm
by harmless
"Future Bolt"?

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:14 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Thumbing my nut

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:46 pm
by Walker Bait
digster wrote:
stupidmop wrote:Do we have any demos from songs that show us a drastic difference from whatever the writer came up with to how it ended up? Other than the fixer and puzzles and games maybe?

And when people say Eddie had most control over an album what does that mean about the songs he didn't write? Stuff like tremor christ or something, did he arrange those too or does he just work with what the band/writer gives him? I've always wondered.
Nothing As It Seems and Speed of Sound demos are pretty different than what they ended up doing.

With regard specifically to Tremor Christ, I'm pretty sure that sprung up out of a rehearsal happening in New Orleans, and the song just came together very quickly. Jeff, I think, mentioned that a lot of Vitalogy was coming out of jams at soundchecks and practice (as they were on the road throughout the making as much of it). You can kind of hear that, especially in something like Tremor Christ or Not for You, which pretty much rides that main riff that Ed plays throughout the song.

The band has pretty much said that everybody brings in stuff to varying levels of completion, and it gets arranged, which according to Ed can be an exhaustive process. They write songs in very different ways, either from someone doing music and lyrics on their own or having it spring out of a jam, or parts coming together from several band members. That's why I really hope there's some kind of version of Beatles Anthology one day for PJ; their creative process is probably very interesting.
Damnit I still haven't heard either of those demos!!

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:47 pm
by Thejambi
Walker Bait wrote:
digster wrote:
stupidmop wrote:Do we have any demos from songs that show us a drastic difference from whatever the writer came up with to how it ended up? Other than the fixer and puzzles and games maybe?

And when people say Eddie had most control over an album what does that mean about the songs he didn't write? Stuff like tremor christ or something, did he arrange those too or does he just work with what the band/writer gives him? I've always wondered.
Nothing As It Seems and Speed of Sound demos are pretty different than what they ended up doing.

With regard specifically to Tremor Christ, I'm pretty sure that sprung up out of a rehearsal happening in New Orleans, and the song just came together very quickly. Jeff, I think, mentioned that a lot of Vitalogy was coming out of jams at soundchecks and practice (as they were on the road throughout the making as much of it). You can kind of hear that, especially in something like Tremor Christ or Not for You, which pretty much rides that main riff that Ed plays throughout the song.

The band has pretty much said that everybody brings in stuff to varying levels of completion, and it gets arranged, which according to Ed can be an exhaustive process. They write songs in very different ways, either from someone doing music and lyrics on their own or having it spring out of a jam, or parts coming together from several band members. That's why I really hope there's some kind of version of Beatles Anthology one day for PJ; their creative process is probably very interesting.
Damnit I still haven't heard either of those demos!!
Speed of sound will probably piss you off.

Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Posted: Thu August 01, 2013 8:49 pm
by EJ
Walker Bait wrote:
Damnit I still haven't heard either of those demos!!
For NAIS and SoS? They're both on youtube.