Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 2:12 am
Yeah, he seems to be forgotten. Its a shame. I still remember what he did with Nightmare on elm street 4.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.VinylGuy wrote:I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.BurtReynolds wrote:Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.LoathedVermin72 wrote:The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
Pretty much everything in Fury Road seems cartoonist to me.BurtReynolds wrote:Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.VinylGuy wrote:I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.BurtReynolds wrote:Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.LoathedVermin72 wrote:The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
In less than two minutes in the opening scene of Road Warrior, Miller perfectly lays out everything you need to know, telling the story visually with no dialogue at all and creating a world that is now synonymous with the term "post apocalyptic". It's a masterpiece in action storytelling, and movie making in general.
Not special... pfft... You're not special!
Cartoonishly awesome.VinylGuy wrote:Pretty much everything in Fury Road seems cartoonist to me.BurtReynolds wrote:Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.VinylGuy wrote:I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.BurtReynolds wrote:Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.LoathedVermin72 wrote:The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
In less than two minutes in the opening scene of Road Warrior, Miller perfectly lays out everything you need to know, telling the story visually with no dialogue at all and creating a world that is now synonymous with the term "post apocalyptic". It's a masterpiece in action storytelling, and movie making in general.
Not special... pfft... You're not special!
Without Miller it doesn't exist, but you can make that argument about anything. Any movie would be better with a better director. Any director would be better with a better movie.LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I like The Road Warrior. It's definitely a good movie. I just don't think Miller is all that great of a filmmaker, and I don't think any of the MM movies are anywhere near as "awesome" as they should and could be with a better director at the helm.
BurtReynolds wrote:Without Miller it doesn't exist, but you can make that argument about anything. Any movie would be better with a better director. Any director would be better with a better movie.LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I like The Road Warrior. It's definitely a good movie. I just don't think Miller is all that great of a filmmaker, and I don't think any of the MM movies are anywhere near as "awesome" as they should and could be with a better director at the helm.
I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
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Burt please calm downBurtReynolds wrote:I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
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Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
I will not calm down until you admit George Miller >>>>>>>>> Vin DieselLoathedVermin72 wrote:Burt please calm downBurtReynolds wrote:I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
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Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
I'd say they're about equalBurtReynolds wrote:I will not calm down until you admit George Miller >>>>>>>>> Vin DieselLoathedVermin72 wrote:Burt please calm downBurtReynolds wrote:I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
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Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
On this, we can agree.BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.
you wanna go to a comic convention with me in a few weeks? Roman Reigns is gonna be there.LoathedVermin72 wrote:On this, we can agree.BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.
I imagine me going to a comic convention would be sorta like a klansman going to a Nas concert.BurtReynolds wrote:you wanna go to a comic convention with me in a few weeks? Roman Reigns is gonna be there.LoathedVermin72 wrote:On this, we can agree.BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.