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Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 2:12 am
by VinylGuy
Yeah, he seems to be forgotten. Its a shame. I still remember what he did with Nightmare on elm street 4.

Amazing.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 2:52 am
by BurtReynolds
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.

He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.

The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.
Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.

In less than two minutes in the opening scene of Road Warrior, Miller perfectly lays out everything you need to know, telling the story visually with no dialogue at all and creating a world that is now synonymous with the term "post apocalyptic". It's a masterpiece in action storytelling, and movie making in general.

Not special... pfft... You're not special!

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:03 am
by VinylGuy
BurtReynolds wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.

He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.

The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.
Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.

In less than two minutes in the opening scene of Road Warrior, Miller perfectly lays out everything you need to know, telling the story visually with no dialogue at all and creating a world that is now synonymous with the term "post apocalyptic". It's a masterpiece in action storytelling, and movie making in general.

Not special... pfft... You're not special!
Pretty much everything in Fury Road seems cartoonist to me.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:06 am
by BurtReynolds
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:The Road Warrior action sequences are some of the greatest ever put on film. You're on crack rock if you think he can't shoot action. You've all become retarded on shaky cam and cg. I won't hear of this nonsense.
The chase scenes are beautifully lensed in the first three MM movies, but in terms of composition and structure, they are nothing special. He had an eye for framing and shot selection, but not always for putting them together in effective ways. But after Fury Road, I can't even say that much for him any more. Those action scenes were devoid of anything compelling.

He'd never do it, but I would love to see Spielberg make an F&F movie. He'd knock it out of the park.
Spielberg is just a wannabe JJ Abrams now, who is just a wannabe Spielberg. He's done.

The structure and composition in Road Warrior is incredibly special. Its the most special there is.
I dont find Road Warrior to be that special. I agree with LV, he sure know how to frame and how to shoot some cool scenes. But thats about it.
Heh that alone would be great action filmmaking, but in addition to great eye for shots and composition, he's a master of visual storytelling and world building, and his action scenes have real crunch. scenes feel like they hurt, unlike modern cartoon dreck like ff.

In less than two minutes in the opening scene of Road Warrior, Miller perfectly lays out everything you need to know, telling the story visually with no dialogue at all and creating a world that is now synonymous with the term "post apocalyptic". It's a masterpiece in action storytelling, and movie making in general.

Not special... pfft... You're not special!
Pretty much everything in Fury Road seems cartoonist to me.
Cartoonishly awesome.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:09 am
by LoathedVermin72
For the record, I like The Road Warrior. It's definitely a good movie. I just don't think Miller is all that great of a filmmaker, and I don't think any of the MM movies are anywhere near as "awesome" as they should and could be with a better director at the helm.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:14 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
would love to see abrams remake them

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:16 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I like The Road Warrior. It's definitely a good movie. I just don't think Miller is all that great of a filmmaker, and I don't think any of the MM movies are anywhere near as "awesome" as they should and could be with a better director at the helm.
Without Miller it doesn't exist, but you can make that argument about anything. Any movie would be better with a better director. Any director would be better with a better movie.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:16 am
by LoathedVermin72
Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:18 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I like The Road Warrior. It's definitely a good movie. I just don't think Miller is all that great of a filmmaker, and I don't think any of the MM movies are anywhere near as "awesome" as they should and could be with a better director at the helm.
Without Miller it doesn't exist, but you can make that argument about anything. Any movie would be better with a better director. Any director would be better with a better movie.
:? Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.

The MM movies have a killer hook. It's a great concept. Miller had a lot of good ideas in conceptualizing the universe. I just wish someone else had actually directed the movies.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:37 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?

But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote: :? Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
.

Your being purposefully dumb@$$.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:39 am
by VinylGuy
I like the mad max movies too. Even fury road, i appreciate what he was trying to do, its impressive even if its flawed.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:40 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?

But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote: :? Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
.

Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
Burt please calm down

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:42 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?

But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote: :? Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
.

Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
Burt please calm down
I will not calm down until you admit George Miller >>>>>>>>> Vin Diesel

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:45 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Zack Snyder would be my dream Mad Max director. I'd also be super curious to see Werner Herzog do one, though I have no idea how he would approach action.
I'm not gonna argue about what hypothetical directors could have done a better job because who cares, especially when the movie in question clearly wouldn't exist at all without the specific director who made it, one who you've already said has a great eye (among many other qualities). Conceptualizing the universe and shepherding the movie into production is often part of directing, more often than not actually. Even if someone else were yelling "cut!", that would hardly make Miller a mere screenwriter. Anyone can say "yeah that was good but it would have been better with [insert favorite moviemaker here]." Maybe Rocky would have been better with Marlon Brando. Who cares?

But maybe Justin Lin can bore us to death in a future sequel.
LoathedVermin72 wrote: :? Either you're misunderstanding me or you're being purposely obtuse.
.

Your being purposefully dumb@$$.
Burt please calm down
I will not calm down until you admit George Miller >>>>>>>>> Vin Diesel
I'd say they're about equal

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:46 am
by BurtReynolds
Just go watch Road Warrior again. Maybe this time you'll finally get it.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:53 am
by BurtReynolds
I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 3:55 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.
On this, we can agree.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 4:01 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.
On this, we can agree.
you wanna go to a comic convention with me in a few weeks? Roman Reigns is gonna be there.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 4:04 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I can't wait for this Deadpool movie to pass so people will stop talking bout Deadpool.
On this, we can agree.
you wanna go to a comic convention with me in a few weeks? Roman Reigns is gonna be there.
I imagine me going to a comic convention would be sorta like a klansman going to a Nas concert.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread

Posted: Tue February 09, 2016 4:08 am
by BurtReynolds
:haha:
Apparently Dr. Who cast members make all of their money on the convention circuit. These things are so weird.