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Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Mon November 02, 2020 3:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Well, Wyttch is pretty fucking good....
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Mon November 02, 2020 3:53 pm
by VinylGuy
Ramona was alright. Not a song that i care much i guess.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed November 18, 2020 3:08 pm
by Simple Torture
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed November 18, 2020 4:25 pm
by surfndestroy
I have more interest in that than the upcoming album.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed November 18, 2020 6:38 pm
by Simple Torture
Confirmed to be a bootleg. Womp womp.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Sat November 28, 2020 8:51 pm
by VinylGuy
CYR is out. I havent finished yet and it sounds weird really. Like a far more polished and superior Monuments...I like a few songs right off, like Cyr and Wyttch, but i wonder if James really did bring something for this album. Or Jeff.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Sat November 28, 2020 9:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Finished a first listen. Some very cool songs mixed with weird boring mid tempo songs. Too much synth-y for my taste, specially when reminds me of Oceania or Monuments.
Also, some very strong songs like Cyr, Wyytch or Minerva.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Mon November 30, 2020 11:37 pm
by i got bugs
Wtf is billy doing, this is atrocious so far
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 12:56 am
by VinylGuy
Its a difficult listen yeah. But there are a few gems.
I wonder if its going to get better with another listen.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 1:27 am
by Stardog Champion
This album could be cut in half, and it would be fine. It has its moments, but there's a lot here that is mediocre at best. This album kinda meanders along, occasionally taking a good turn but feeling lost a good portion of the time.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 1:33 am
by VinylGuy
it has too many mid tempo songs that sound similar. And it kinda reminds me of the worst in Oceania and Monuments.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:48 am
by Stardog Champion
VinylGuy wrote:it has too many mid tempo songs that sound similar. And it kinda reminds me of the worst in Oceania and Monuments.
Yup. And that kind of thing is noticeable on an album with 12 or so tracks. The fact that this thing has twenty songs really just highlights the issue. It feels like it's just droning on at stretches.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:53 am
by 96583UP
haven't listen but saw The Guardian review and they torched it
two stars
Although Smashing Pumpkins are no strangers to synths, they have always remained a guitar band at heart. And yet Cyr, the second album since three-quarters of their “classic” lineup reconvened in 2018 (original bassist D’arcy Wretzky is still absent, although thankfully no longer in prison for horse-related offences), finds Billy Corgan setting the controls for the heart of 1982 with a full-blown synth-pop set.
Normally, such willingness to transcend genre boundaries would be commendable, but Cyr falls flat on so many levels. Lush textures abound, but there’s barely a memorable tune present, which makes the decision to release it as a 72-minute double album hubristic in the extreme.
Of the 20 phoned-in songs here, 19 are at best inessential, at worst actively irritating. The risibly titled Anno Satana (edgy!) finds the band sounding vaguely engaged, though Corgan spoils it with his opening line, “Did you know I’m a wanted man?”, which comes across like the blowhard posturing of a small-town bar-room bore. And while his whiny – there’s no nice way of describing it – voice by and large complemented the angsty aggression at play on 1993 career high Siamese Dream, here it sounds merely grating set against gentler soundscapes. Even the band’s frequently wheeled-out female backing vocals fail to sweeten this particular pill.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/ ... lly-corgan
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:55 am
by VinylGuy
maybe the worst thing this album has its that its just too similar. The palette is pretty much the same.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:57 am
by i got bugs
VinylGuy wrote:maybe the worst thing this album has its that its just too similar. The palette is pretty much the same.
Every song is the exact same horrible song
I think I heard 2 or 3 I thought were ok
Did billy forget how to work a guitar
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:51 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, im mostly bored with how similar are all the songs.
I would say that Wyytch, Cyr and Minerva are my favorites....i wonder about the replay value.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue December 01, 2020 2:51 pm
by verb_to_trust
i got bugs wrote:VinylGuy wrote:maybe the worst thing this album has its that its just too similar. The palette is pretty much the same.
Every song is the exact same horrible song
I think I heard 2 or 3 I thought were ok
Did billy forget how to work a guitar
Billy thinks guitar is dead. This is him trying to be cool and failing.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed December 02, 2020 12:29 am
by i got bugs
All these talented guitarists think the guitar is dead and in a roundabout way, they're the ones killing it
They need to go tell the record industry suit n tie people to go fuck off n let them do what they do best
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed December 02, 2020 12:53 am
by VinylGuy
SP already ditched the guitars with Adore. But that album is a fucking masterpiece and this one is just so similar...
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed December 02, 2020 1:26 am
by i got bugs
VinylGuy wrote:SP already ditched the guitars with Adore. But that album is a fucking masterpiece and this one is just so similar...
They put out good guitar stuff since then