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Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:34 pm
by @SkitchP
numbers wrote:We still have mad picks left.
what, 7?

i think for the most part we've all already picked our starters nearly all around the diamond. Pinch runners and Situational LOOGYs aren't going to determine this thing.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:36 pm
by numbers
Are we stuck with the park we chose or are we going to be able to change them after the draft? I remember this being mentioned.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:36 pm
by The Argonaut
Steve Kline

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:39 pm
by @SkitchP
CHUD's pick of Joe Nathan was actually the only one that's made me mad because I was about to take him.

3.9 WAR for a reliever in 2004.

In context, my reach for Gagne in 2003 was only 3.7. Of course I found that out after the fact.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:39 pm
by Lament
Now we probably be a good time to discuss some aspects of the tournaments.

-I'm gonna run everybody besides me through the randomizer again and seed them 1-8. I volunteered to be in the play-in round, so I'll take the ninth seed. Whoever wins the series between me and the eight seed will move forward and face the one seed.

-I was going to just assign home field advantage along with the seed, but if you guys have any clever ideas as to ways to do home field advantage (insert all-star game joke here), or even seeding, post them and maybe we'll use them.

-I'm thinking at the start of each round, we should make people announce their starters for at least the first three games. I want to make sure people have the opportunity to alter their lineups based on who they're facing. If you decide to use a guy on two games' rest, you'll have to do it by a certain time so that your opponent can respond.

-How long should we have between games? Should we run multiple games in a series per day, or should we run one every single day? This one is totally up to you guys. Whatever it is, we'll have a deadline for lineup changes, and if you don't submit one by then we'll just use your lineup from the previous game

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:40 pm
by Lament
numbers wrote:Are we stuck with the park we chose or are we going to be able to change them after the draft? I remember this being mentioned.
You can change it up till the tournament.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:41 pm
by Lament
Rafael Soriano.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:42 pm
by numbers
I think I've thought of a park that is much better suited to the team I've drafted, but I have a hard time coming to grips with not using Fenway.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:43 pm
by @SkitchP
Despite my better judgment, i will stick with tiger stadium

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:43 pm
by Lament
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:We still have mad picks left.
what, 7?

i think for the most part we've all already picked our starters nearly all around the diamond. Pinch runners and Situational LOOGYs aren't going to determine this thing.
Do you guys want to go to an hour limit tomorrow and see if we can have this draft knocked out by the end of the day?

@SkitchP wrote:CHUD's pick of Joe Nathan was actually the only one that's made me mad because I was about to take him.

3.9 WAR for a reliever in 2004.

In context, my reach for Gagne in 2003 was only 3.7. Of course I found that out after the fact.
I really wanted Gagne. I was bummed when you took him.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: Argo (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:49 pm
by @SkitchP
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
numbers wrote:We still have mad picks left.
what, 7?

i think for the most part we've all already picked our starters nearly all around the diamond. Pinch runners and Situational LOOGYs aren't going to determine this thing.
Do you guys want to go to an hour limit tomorrow and see if we can have this draft knocked out by the end of the day?

@SkitchP wrote:CHUD's pick of Joe Nathan was actually the only one that's made me mad because I was about to take him.

3.9 WAR for a reliever in 2004.

In context, my reach for Gagne in 2003 was only 3.7. Of course I found that out after the fact.



I really wanted Gagne. I was bummed when you took him.

as far as I've been able to tell, any WAR over 3.5 for a reliever is REALLY good. 4 is outstanding.

for as amazing as Koji was last year, he only hit 3.6. Urbina at his peak only hit 3.2. Kimbrel only 3.3. Trevor Hoffman only eclipsed 3.3 TWICE.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:51 pm
by Kaius
Whoever took Wagner upset me.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:52 pm
by numbers
Me as well.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:55 pm
by numbers
Chud selects Dave Roberts via Twitter.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:56 pm
by @SkitchP
Of my top 4 relievers, based on WAR only, Eric Gagne had the WORST best season of them. Lidge and Rodney both hit 3.8 and Putz at 4.0.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (18)

Posted: Tue September 02, 2014 11:57 pm
by numbers
Chud is going all heart for this thing.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: chud (18)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 12:04 am
by Lament
@SkitchP wrote:Of my top 4 relievers, based on WAR only, Eric Gagne had the WORST best season of them. Lidge and Rodney both hit 3.8 and Putz at 4.0.
My top four clock in at 4.1, 3.8, 3.7, & 3.1.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (18)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 12:07 am
by Lament
I'll be honest though, with my bullpen I've been going way more by WHIP & K/BB ratios than anything else.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (18)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 12:11 am
by philpritchard
Lament wrote:I'll be honest though, with my bullpen I've been going way more by WHIP & K/BB ratios than anything else.
I think those kinds of numbers (FIP, K/BB) are more important in this situation. It's pretty widely accepted that WAR isn't particularly accurate in evaluating relievers.

I guess I'll go with a 6.4 WAR, MVP-winning, 30-home run hitting SS as my "pinch runner"... Jimmy Rollins.

Re: Post-Strike Baseball Tournament: phil (18)

Posted: Wed September 03, 2014 12:13 am
by Lament
philpritchard wrote:I guess I'll go with a 6.4 WAR, MVP-winning, 30-home run hitting SS as my "pinch runner"... Jimmy Rollins.
Not bad for pick #159.

Keep in mind guys, with no DH, there's a good chance your bench players are gonna be called on to pinch hit in the later innings.