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RockPusher wrote:The Future Days in the Last Of Us promo is a great song.
It has an at the end of a tunnel thing happening and a creepiness that does the song well in the trailer.
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Matters wrote:Who You Are - In My Tree - Smile - Off He Goes might be my least favorite 4 song run on any PJ album. There’s probably a stretch on Lightning Bolt that I enjoy less but I don’t feel like looking up the track list.
I appreciate the swing this post is taking

For the record, my bottom four run is Breakerfall - Gods Dice - Evacuation - Light Years
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I would like PJ to bring back free jazz and make it a tight 30second intro to a song once in awhile (not laugh and comment on it once it fizzles out)
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stip wrote:
Matters wrote:Who You Are - In My Tree - Smile - Off He Goes might be my least favorite 4 song run on any PJ album. There’s probably a stretch on Lightning Bolt that I enjoy less but I don’t feel like looking up the track list.
I appreciate the swing this post is taking

For the record, my bottom four run is Breakerfall - Gods Dice - Evacuation - Light Years
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Even on Lightning Bolt I have a hard time finding a four song run I don’t like.
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Kalevi wrote:I would like PJ to bring back free jazz and make it a tight 30second intro to a song once in awhile (not laugh and comment on it once it fizzles out)
It's too bad they never played this before Last Exit on the '03 tour. They came close in Brisbane I think where they played Free Jazz-->DTE-->Last Exit.
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Some days I feel like Eddie Vedder (lyrically and vocally but also somewhat his public persona) has become the weakest link in Pearl Jam and I'm only hanging in because I truly love Stone and Mike as guitar players.

That's not every day, but it is some days.
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liebzz wrote:Even on Lightning Bolt I have a hard time finding a four song run I don’t like.
this is actually true, although i cant stand Getaway now.
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lvc wrote:Some days I feel like Eddie Vedder (lyrically and vocally but also somewhat his public persona) has become the weakest link in Pearl Jam and I'm only hanging in because I truly love Stone and Mike as guitar players.

That's not every day, but it is some days.
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I like Lightning Bolt a lot, and I'm constantly baffled by the hate it gets.

"Getaway" is among my favorite openers. I love how the vocal melody rides on the bass line.

"Sleeping By Myself" is one of my all time favorite PJ songs.

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Buby wrote:"Getaway" is among my favorite openers. I love how the vocal melody rides on the bass line.
I'm susceptible to arguments that Getaway isn't very good, but I do really like Ed's melody on it.
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I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
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Jaeti wrote:
Buby wrote:"Getaway" is among my favorite openers. I love how the vocal melody rides on the bass line.
I'm susceptible to arguments that Getaway isn't very good, but I do really like Ed's melody on it.
Same
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liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
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stip wrote:
liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
Stip that's sacrilegious. :lol:

Also, Tremor Christ and Infallible share no DNA, other than the use dissonant chords.
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Buby wrote:
stip wrote:
liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
Stip that's sacrilegious. :lol:

Also, Tremor Christ and Infallible share no DNA, other than the use dissonant chords.
You obviously never heard that pre-Lightning Bolt release sound check or whatever that was recorded by a phone inside a sock at the bottom of a bucket.
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epilogue wrote:
Buby wrote:
stip wrote:
liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
Stip that's sacrilegious. :lol:

Also, Tremor Christ and Infallible share no DNA, other than the use dissonant chords.
You obviously never heard that pre-Lightning Bolt release sound check or whatever that was recorded by a phone inside a sock at the bottom of a bucket.
That's the only version I want to hear now. :D
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Buby wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Buby wrote:
stip wrote:
liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
Stip that's sacrilegious. :lol:

Also, Tremor Christ and Infallible share no DNA, other than the use dissonant chords.
You obviously never heard that pre-Lightning Bolt release sound check or whatever that was recorded by a phone inside a sock at the bottom of a bucket.
That's the only version I want to hear now. :D
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pearl jam sucks now
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Buby wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Buby wrote:
stip wrote:
liebzz wrote:I don’t hate Lightning Bolt, but there’s reason for criticism. Much of the album has a feeling of taking one existing element the band already had in its repertoire and pasting it on top of another, leaving the album feeling stale quickly. The songs can miss the mark in this carbon copying collage style. Sirens could be Nothing As It Seems if not for it also sounding like Come Back. Infallible could be Tremor Christ if not for it also sounding like I Am Mine. Lightning Bolt could have been Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves little brother, and is exactly the sort of neutering they did when radio editing Waiting For Stevie. It feels somehow disjointed and telegraphed at the same time. I think I ended up liking it enough in the end that I still can listen to the thing, but despite its thematic struggle with mortality, it had an expiration date before it felt like an album that neither advanced nor detracted from their career. It exists.
well said. it is very much like Collapse into Now in that regard
Stip that's sacrilegious. :lol:

Also, Tremor Christ and Infallible share no DNA, other than the use dissonant chords.
You obviously never heard that pre-Lightning Bolt release sound check or whatever that was recorded by a phone inside a sock at the bottom of a bucket.
That's the only version I want to hear now. :D
pretty sure it's stip's preferred version
I like all my music mix and mastered for sock and bucket listening
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