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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:47 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
LW, MITS, and Gone are all better than Big Wave. FACT.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:49 pm
by Habitman
stip wrote:Habitman wrote:Django Butterworth wrote:It is good as a b-side, had no business being on S/T.
Its not a great song but that riff has balls. PJ riffs have been missing some balls the last two efforts.
We need more balls.

the life wasted riff is pure balls
LW has a cool riff but it comes off as a bit flat to me...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:51 pm
by melonhead4
My Unreasonable/ subjective complaints:
1. Evacuation sucks
2. Big Wave should not have been on S/T
3. Let it Ride is better than Cold Confession
4, Vitalogy is a flawed album
I'm sure there's more...[/quote]
i agree with number 2 and 3..Big wave is def a B Side, but i dont mind it on ST...its actually a good song live...I cant think of a bad song on vitalogy altho im sick of betterman...Let it Ride is def superior to CC IMO...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:51 pm
by WaitingForBluey
stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
Ok dude, I just gave you a thumbs up for repping bugs and stupid mop... but seriously, big wave is not better than life wasted. not even close. And I might even be in the stip camp and venture to say that life wasted could be the best song PJ has written in the last 10 years....
Who wrote the music for that btw? Oh yea, right... Stone fuckin' Gossard!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:52 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
i will agree its better then gone, but that is it
im happy that you like it though
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:52 pm
by Norah
stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:53 pm
by stupidmop
Meh I say, MEH.
LW and MitS are ruined by Shitty bridges and/or choruses. I really like the guitar in Gone but not anything else. So basically its eds fault.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:53 pm
by stip
bluestate wrote:stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
Ok dude, I just gave you a thumbs up for repping bugs and stupid mop... but seriously, big wave is not better than life wasted. not even close. And I might even be in the stip camp and venture to say that life wasted could be the best song PJ has written in the last 10 years....
Who wrote the music for that btw? Oh yea, right... Stone fuckin' Gossard!
well I wouldn't say that it is the best song in 10 years (at the very least I prefer comatose and WWS), but it is one of them.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:54 pm
by stip
stupidmop wrote:Meh I say, MEH.
LW and MitS are ruined by Shitty bridges and/or choruses. I really like the guitar in Gone but not anything else. So basically its eds fault.
everything I've bolded is incorrect.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:54 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stupidmop wrote:Meh I say, MEH.
LW and MitS are ruined by Shitty bridges and/or choruses. I really like the guitar in Gone but not anything else. So basically its eds fault.
i LOVE marker in the sand, just below parachutes and army reserve as my favorite on the album
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:56 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Meh I say, MEH.
LW and MitS are ruined by Shitty bridges and/or choruses. I really like the guitar in Gone but not anything else. So basically its eds fault.
STOP BEING WRONG.
The bridge of LW is the best part of the song. The chorus of MITS is basically good.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:58 pm
by Got Some
Django Butterworth wrote:harmless wrote:Django Butterworth wrote:It is good as a b-side, had no business being on S/T.
Is this you making a totally unreasonable and subjective complaint? Wow! Welcome to the board.
Yup,
Add it to my list:
My Unreasonable/ subjective complaints:
1. Evacuation sucks
2. Big Wave should not have been on S/T
3. Let it Ride is better than Cold Confession
4, Vitalogy is a flawed album
I'm sure there's more...
I disagree with 1.
Can't argue with the rest. Stupid mop is a flaw.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:58 pm
by darth_vedder
Guys, E-Vac-U-A-Shun in not all that. It's an OK song with some interesting parts but nowhere near the top of PJ's best.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 1:59 pm
by Habitman
cutuphalfdead wrote:stupidmop wrote:Big wave is better than life wasted, marker in the sand, gone, come back and inside job, so before you get rid of it well...
The GONE chorus is one of the most nauseating things PJ has ever written. its a tragic display. Hate it.
On a related note... "No More" appeared on my playlist this morning. Words can't describe how awful that song is. Gone is close to that awfulness.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:01 pm
by jdopj
I will say that Marker is the best song since Binaural. Love Marker

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:02 pm
by Norah
Marker is great but Parachutes is better.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:03 pm
by EJ
Marker
Parachutes
Army Reserve
Better Man (live)
....
the rest
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:03 pm
by WaitingForBluey
S/T could've been a classic "return to form" mind crusher minus the following:
1. Avocados
2. Zombie pyramids
3. Full-band version of Gone (if they had to include it, they should've just left it in demo form, Matt's hi-hat rhythm on the 2nd verse just sounds painfully unoriginal)
4. First 2 minutes of Inside Job (either cut out all that crap, with the cheesy 80's piano.... or just replace it with Cold Confession as the album closer)
So close... but still no sitar
EDIT: Well, while I'm at it... get ride of that cheesy Wasted Reprise as well... and blast us with a ripping studio version of... you know it... OF THE EARTH!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:06 pm
by harmless
bluestate wrote:S/T could've been a classic "return to form" mind crusher minus the following:
1. Avocados
2. Zombie pyramids
3. Full-band version of Gone (if they had to include it, they should've just left it in demo form, Matt's hi-hat rhythm on the 2nd verse just sounds painfully unoriginal)
4. First 2 minutes of Inside Job (either cut out all that crap, with the cheesy 80's piano.... or just replace it with Cold Confession as the album closer)
So close... but still no sitar
I would put Matt's hi-hats in 'Gone' quite a long way down the list of unoriginal Matt moments.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:07 pm
by Norah
EJ wrote:Marker
Parachutes
Army Reserve
Almost...
Parachutes
Marker
Army Reserve
Big Wave
the rest