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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 1:48 pm
by Bi_3
Sweet! The Wall starts today! El suck it libtardos!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:12 pm
by Self
Self wrote:digster wrote:The talk about the 3-5 million votes doesn't really seem to do either of those.
It's a good starting point for passing more voter suppression laws?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:31 pm
by digster
I just don't see how that helps him politically. Perhaps I'm misjudging (and overestimating) the electorate, but I would imagine even a good chunk of his supporters would be wondering why he's still harping on this. And again, there does not have to be that much movement for him to be a one-term president. If a few of his supporters are demoralized and stay home and a few of his opponents are energized to vote against him in a way they weren't for Clinton, he will have a rough time.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:41 pm
by McParadigm
digster wrote:I just don't see how that helps him politically. Perhaps I'm misjudging (and overestimating) the electorate, but I would imagine even a good chunk of his supporters would be wondering why he's still harping on this.
They are certain, to this day, that they are the majority.
Shown this image...
...40% of Trump voters identified the wrong picture as being the one of trump's inauguration. 15% of Trump voters in another group identified the correct picture as being from this year, but insisted that IT HAD MORE PEOPLE IN IT than the other image. Not from memory, but WHILE looking at the image.
If he tells them he found proof of 10 million illegal votes, and that "certain measures" have to be taken to address voter fraud, they will believe it and cheer for how he is saving democracy.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:43 pm
by 4/5
Everything he's doing is red meat for his base. His supporters will LOVE the voter fraud stuff regardless of the outcome. I think he's done an incredible job winning their life-long support in the matter of about 5 days. I don't think those people will ever turn against him.
Whether he pivots and tries to assuage true conservatives and moderate Republicans will be interesting to watch. I think he's free to do so politically because I truly believe his true believers won't desert him no matter how much his actions go against what he's said and against their interests.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:45 pm
by 4/5
Great. McParadigm made my point better and with visual aid.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:52 pm
by B
tragabigzanda wrote:B wrote:96583UP wrote:as if the year preceding the election wasnt already dominating every news site with trump references
now that he is president there are literally 23 articles per news site frontpage about trump
i have tried to develop new hobbies; like reading about local history, so as to avoid getting sucked into the 24/7 mince-fest
i may need to simply start obsessively playing Pokerstars again for the next 4 years while this whole thing blows over
I generally limit myself to getting Trump news from this forum and YouTube videos from Bill Maher, The Daily Show, Seth Meyers, and the Late Show monologues. It keeps me up on what insanity he's up to with just enough humor to keep me from killing myself.
Wait, so you're saying the comedic stylings of Trevor Noah
don't compel you to thoughts of suicide?
He's definitely not as funny as Stewart, but he hits home on the issues really well.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 2:59 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
4/5 wrote:Great. McParadigm made my point better and with visual aid.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 3:04 pm
by Green Habit
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 3:07 pm
by Green Habit
So one thing I'm frequently amazed at is how Trump hasn't cared to purge any of his old Tweets dating back to 2011. Now, of course, it's too late, and people are motivated to create searchable archives of his tweets to go down in history.
http://trumptwitterarchive.com/#/
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 3:34 pm
by wease
Self wrote:Self wrote:digster wrote:The talk about the 3-5 million votes doesn't really seem to do either of those.
It's a good starting point for passing more voter suppression laws?
The funny thing is I can only think of one instance that was reported of where a voter voted twice in this last election and she voted for Trump in both states.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 3:59 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 4:06 pm
by Bi_3
Is this what was instituted last year but not in effect until now or is this something new? The Obama admin had already set a review panel for the EPA.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 4:08 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 4:45 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
Is this what was instituted last year but not in effect until now or is this something new? The Obama admin had already set a review panel for the EPA.
An administrative one? The last I remember reading was the 2009 revocation of non-scientific review processes, which he instituted.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 4:45 pm
by bune
96583UP wrote:now i am eating pretzels
Be careful, they've taken down some great men in the past.
Choking on Pretzel, Bush Faints Briefly
January 14, 2002|JAMES GERSTENZANG and THOMAS H. MAUGH II | TIMES STAFF WRITERS
WASHINGTON — President Bush briefly lost consciousness Sunday after he choked on a pretzel while watching a football game on television in his living quarters, the White House said.
After fainting, the president tumbled to the floor from a couch, bruising his lower lip and suffering an abrasion the size of a half dollar on his left cheek, White House physician Dr. Richard Tubb said.
Tubb, an Air Force colonel, said Bush recovered quickly.
"I do not find any reason that this would happen again," Tubb told news agencies in an interview arranged by the White House. "He fainted due to a temporary decrease in heart rate brought on by swallowing a pretzel."
Bush, 55, was found to be in good health during a full physical exam in August.
Aides say he conscientiously adheres to an exercise regimen, running on a treadmill in the White House residence, and while at his Texas ranch or Camp David, routinely racing through three-mile jogs in 21 minutes.
Or, you know...Bush.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 4:55 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:The EPA was neutered a long time ago. The majority of environmental damage that will be inflicted by the Trump administration will come from his economic and trade measures, not from the protective agency that has been lacking in muscle for several administrations.
I agree that key components of it are thoroughly neutered. However, the grants it oversees have funded some of the most valuable research ever produced on the effects and prevalence of carcinogens and toxins, and they are directly responsible for some key chemical and waste management laws.
I mean they also sat on the Flint thing for almost a year, so...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 5:01 pm
by bune
dimejinky99 wrote:So you have to sneak news out of the US now. Jesus
Sweet Jesus.
Simple Torture wrote:McParadigm wrote:
The more I think about it, the weirdest part of this tweet is that he externalizes "the feds." Dude, you are "the feds" now!
He's talked about himself in third person before, why stop.
McParadigm wrote:digster wrote:I just don't see how that helps him politically. Perhaps I'm misjudging (and overestimating) the electorate, but I would imagine even a good chunk of his supporters would be wondering why he's still harping on this.
They are certain, to this day, that they are the majority.
Shown this image...
...40% of Trump voters identified the wrong picture as being the one of trump's inauguration. 15% of Trump voters in another group identified the correct picture as being from this year, but insisted that IT HAD MORE PEOPLE IN IT than the other image.
Not from memory, but WHILE looking at the image.
If he tells them he found proof of 10 million illegal votes, and that "certain measures" have to be taken to address voter fraud, they will believe it and cheer for how he is saving democracy.
The cuss you say.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 5:17 pm
by McParadigm
The cuss I say
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 5:17 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:The EPA was neutered a long time ago. The majority of environmental damage that will be inflicted by the Trump administration will come from his economic and trade measures, not from the protective agency that has been lacking in muscle for several administrations.
Maybe. Long-haul container ships are one of the biggest polluters on the planet. More so than cars (or so i read somewhere). If we have less international trade from Asia and less oil from the ME, it might actaully lower our carbon outputs.