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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:53 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:
oneway23 wrote:I can't fathom how lengthy this thread would be if anyone here actually enjoyed Pearl Jam.
About as lengthy as the LB thread on The Pit
All 13 beautiful pages of it!

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:54 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:The pit also has a BoB bitching thread :lol: so its not just some bizarre rm collective conciousness.
Yeah, it's funny to read them finally waking up to what he is. People are like "He.... he said that? Really?"

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:56 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:57 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
oneway23 wrote:I can't fathom how lengthy this thread would be if anyone here actually enjoyed Pearl Jam.
About as lengthy as the LB thread on The Pit
All 13 beautiful pages of it!
Sometimes I wish this thread had only 13 words: "Hey, guys, I think everybody needs to check out the email account asap".

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:57 pm
by stupidmop
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
oneway23 wrote:I can't fathom how lengthy this thread would be if anyone here actually enjoyed Pearl Jam.
i think they are pretty ok
I hate em. I'm here because of Brenden "maker of significant music" O'Brien. These Pearl Jam fucks you keep talking about would be nowhere without him. Those albums are decent despite Pearl Jam not beacause of them.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:59 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?
They're popular enough...they're usually guaranteed to fill out Wembley and the MEN, but I doubt they could ever do a full on UK arena tour.

Their contemporaries (Green Day, Foo Fighters, RHCP) can usually do a full on arena tour and sometimes stadiums.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:59 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?
They somehow fill arenas, yeah, but they play here so seldom that I'd guess a lot of people see them based on old material and curiosity that they're still around. They only *started* getting top billing at festivals in 2006, and even though they've headlined a handful of festivals since, it's always seen as a bigger deal because Zane Lowe and Jo Whiley hype it up. The audience is still only there to hear Ten, really. They have their hardcore fanbase, which is probably a lot of people in a room, but not relative to the population I don't think. My perception is they're a lot bigger in Europe; Italy and Spain etc.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:02 pm
by harmless
lecherouslittlestump wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?
They're popular enough...they're usually guaranteed to fill out Wembley and the MEN, but I doubt they could ever do a full on UK arena tour.

Their contemporaries (Green Day, Foo Fighters, RHCP) can usually do a full on arena tour and sometimes stadiums.
That's it. They sell out the very occasional gig but they wouldn't have the amount of rabid fans following them around that they would elsewhere. Anyone who would regularly follow them around for 20 shows in a UK tour is on the Pit or RM, I would think. Everyone else would think this stalking was very strange behaviour.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:04 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
oneway23 wrote:I can't fathom how lengthy this thread would be if anyone here actually enjoyed Pearl Jam.
About as lengthy as the LB thread on The Pit
All 13 beautiful pages of it!
Sometimes I wish this thread had only 13 words: "Hey, guys, I think everybody needs to check out the email account asap".
You could even get rid of the word 'guys', reducing the word count to a comfortable commercial twelve, and the sentence would be just as effective.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:09 pm
by dimejinky99
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?
They somehow fill arenas, yeah, but they play here so seldom that I'd guess a lot of people see them based on old material and curiosity that they're still around. They only *started* getting top billing at festivals in 2006, and even though they've headlined a handful of festivals since, it's always seen as a bigger deal because Zane Lowe and Jo Whiley hype it up. The audience is still only there to hear Ten, really. They have their hardcore fanbase, which is probably a lot of people in a room, but not relative to the population I don't think. My perception is they're a lot bigger in Europe; Italy and Spain etc.
Headlining Leeds and reading and similar festivals across europe and playing Europe and the Uk almost every year since 2006 is hardly the mark of a band on the ropes.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:14 pm
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
theplatypus wrote:What is a "cult band", exactly? I don't see how PJ fit with the definition of "cult band" I'm thinking of. They're extremely popular.
Maybe their following is cult-like?
This is what I meant. They're pretty polarising, and I wouldn't say PJ are currently gigantic at all. But then I live in the UK, so my POV is probably skewed. Nobody really cares about them here beyond a tight fanbase and Zane Lowe.
Don't they still consistently sell out arenas and get top-billing at festivals in the UK?
They somehow fill arenas, yeah, but they play here so seldom that I'd guess a lot of people see them based on old material and curiosity that they're still around. They only *started* getting top billing at festivals in 2006, and even though they've headlined a handful of festivals since, it's always seen as a bigger deal because Zane Lowe and Jo Whiley hype it up. The audience is still only there to hear Ten, really. They have their hardcore fanbase, which is probably a lot of people in a room, but not relative to the population I don't think. My perception is they're a lot bigger in Europe; Italy and Spain etc.
Headlining Leeds and reading and similar festivals across europe and playing Europe and the Uk almost every year since 2006 is hardly the mark of a band on the ropes.
I didn't say they were on the ropes. I implied that they've had a mysterious media resurgence since creating two substandard albums, all of which generally doesn't reflect or represent public opinion in my experience.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:18 pm
by Tj
:finger:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:20 pm
by Jorge
I think the "did I miss anything?" posts are probably just as annoying as RM's ouroboros leanings.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:23 pm
by gems and rhinestones
"Yes they sell out arenas and headline festivals but but but...."


Seems like they are doing fine to me then. :thumbsup:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:24 pm
by Tj
Having a avatar that looks like Jay Leno In a S&M mask is annoying.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:26 pm
by broken iris
Guys we can't turn on each other until everyone agrees that Lighting Bolt sucks.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:28 pm
by Tj
I thought we all agreed it sucked ,because BoB produced it, Matts not Dave, Dave or Jack and Ed is happy with children and all.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:28 pm
by harmless
gems and rhinestones wrote:"Yes they sell out arenas and headline festivals but but but...."


Seems like they are doing fine to me then. :thumbsup:
FFS, I didn't say they weren't "doing fine". I am not trying to argue that PJ Inc. is in any danger of closure. My original premise was my qualification of "cult band". I still think they are that here, compared to say Europe, the States and South America.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:29 pm
by Jorge
gems and rhinestones wrote:"Yes they sell out arenas and headline festivals but but but...."


Seems like they are doing fine to me then. :thumbsup:
Yeah, people lose perspective. Pearl Jam are more popular than all but 0.0001% of bands in the world, and I don't think there's anything special about their fanbase which makes it "cult-like"-- just about every band of their tenure has a huge contingent of fanatics. Calling them a "cult band" rubs me the wrong way. They're not obscure outsider musicians. They breathe rarified air.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:29 pm
by Chris_H_2
nostalgic act?