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Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:08 pm
by oneway23
DWFB wrote:Haha , 7th day adventist! I pictured him as more of a snake handling Pentecostal (0.00001% of Christianity)
Definitely sure I've heard Ed speak in tongues before
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:18 pm
by Jorge
oneway23 wrote:DWFB wrote:Haha , 7th day adventist! I pictured him as more of a snake handling Pentecostal (0.00001% of Christianity)
Definitely sure I've heard Ed speak in tongues before
Yes we've all heard "Yellow Ledbetter"
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:22 pm
by oneway23
theplatypus wrote:oneway23 wrote:DWFB wrote:Haha , 7th day adventist! I pictured him as more of a snake handling Pentecostal (0.00001% of Christianity)
Definitely sure I've heard Ed speak in tongues before
Yes we've all heard "Yellow Ledbetter"
Well done

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:27 pm
by bune
tragabigzanda wrote:i saw that post bune, now i'm off searching.
I mis-remembered: it's Backspacer that's out there, not LB.
Hence the deleted post.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:29 pm
by Tuolumne
Strat wrote:Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.
And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.
Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.
I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:33 pm
by spike
oneway23 wrote:
Jiminy Crispix, how blazed is Boom in that picture?
holy shit, strat was there?
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:37 pm
by Vindicator
I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:38 pm
by 96583UP
theplatypus wrote:oneway23 wrote:DWFB wrote:Haha , 7th day adventist! I pictured him as more of a snake handling Pentecostal (0.00001% of Christianity)
Definitely sure I've heard Ed speak in tongues before
Yes we've all heard "Yellow Ledbetter"
he loves Christ and this new album is a perfect reflection of his fire for Jesus
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:44 pm
by Coach
Tuolumne wrote:Strat wrote:Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.
And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.
Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.
I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
This had me thinking......Who is the board's longest active member? Peeps, me, Stip, Tuolumne? I recall the two crashes prior to the '04 crash and the data was lost, but was still curious if a data scientist (or climatologist) could find out. Thx.
Also, rip, Sunny, who was a long-timer from Boston who left too
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:47 pm
by oneway23
Tuolumne wrote:
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
Laugh at everything, enjoy the pre-album hype swell, and when the band as creative entity once again grinds to a halt and resorts to touring every three years as a means of simply paying for their seedlings' private schools, just walk away, like I do (fine...I roll

), until we do it all again the next go around. No harm done.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:51 pm
by 96583UP
Coach wrote:Tuolumne wrote:Strat wrote:Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.
And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.
Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.
I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
This had me thinking......Who is the board's longest active member? Peeps, me, Stip, Tuolumne? I recall the two crashes prior to the '04 crash and the data was lost, but was still curious if a data scientist (or climatologist) could find out. Thx.
Also, rip, Sunny, who was a long-timer from Boston who left too
can you crybabies take this dogshit to a different thread?
we’re here to talk about Gigaton Squad
thanks
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:51 pm
by stip
Vindicator wrote:I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums
that was the case for S/T for the most part but it was less and less the case for each subsequent record.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:53 pm
by stip
Coach wrote:Tuolumne wrote:Strat wrote:Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.
And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.
Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.
I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
This had me thinking......Who is the board's longest active member? Peeps, me, Stip, Tuolumne? I recall the two crashes prior to the '04 crash and the data was lost, but was still curious if a data scientist (or climatologist) could find out. Thx.
Also, rip, Sunny, who was a long-timer from Boston who left too
I started posting regularly during Riot Act. Maybe I had a handful earlier. It was one of the first march madness tournaments that really had me posting regularly. I actually may have posted briefly during 1999-2000 as I have some vague memories of doing so in my classroom during break when I was a middle school teacher. But it wasn't a habit until RA.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:54 pm
by stip
I remember when Binaural and especially Riot Act were pretty disliked. Those were the days

Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:54 pm
by Coach
Does anyone remember the build up on Five Horizons? That's where a ton of new album info came. That was always fun.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:54 pm
by 96583UP
stip wrote:Vindicator wrote:I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums
that was the case for S/T for the most part but it was less and less the case for each subsequent record.
I recall there being a lot of disappointment for LB when they debuted that Future Days at wrigley
Gigaton meanwhile is setting a totally different tone
it’s been a very successful marketing campaign thus far
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:55 pm
by Coach
stip wrote:I remember when Binaural and especially Riot Act were pretty disliked. Those were the days

Oh I remember that, too.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:57 pm
by Coach
stip wrote:Coach wrote:Tuolumne wrote:Strat wrote:Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.
And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.
Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.
I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.
I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.
Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.
This had me thinking......Who is the board's longest active member? Peeps, me, Stip, Tuolumne? I recall the two crashes prior to the '04 crash and the data was lost, but was still curious if a data scientist (or climatologist) could find out. Thx.
Also, rip, Sunny, who was a long-timer from Boston who left too
I started posting regularly during Riot Act. Maybe I had a handful earlier. It was one of the first march madness tournaments that really had me posting regularly. I actually may have posted briefly during 1999-2000 as I have some vague memories of doing so in my classroom during break when I was a middle school teacher. But it wasn't a habit until RA.
I have the same problem w/ remembering that - it's just a curious thing - message board posting history - I've been thinking about since some of these old names popped up, which I think is great.
Re: The Official GIGATON Thread (real tracklists released!)
Posted: Sat January 25, 2020 10:58 pm
by stip
96583UP wrote:stip wrote:Vindicator wrote:I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums
that was the case for S/T for the most part but it was less and less the case for each subsequent record.
I recall there being a lot of disappointment for LB when they debuted that Future Days at wrigley
Gigaton meanwhile is setting a totally different tone
it’s been a very successful marketing campaign thus far
The atmosphere right now is the most positive I can remember certainly since S/T - and perhaps eclipsing it