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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:28 pm
by bune
That too. Or someone leaked the names of the entire jury and they all have secret Swiss accounts now.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:30 pm
by Hatfield
tragabigzanda wrote:bune wrote:
It's hard to describe how this makes me feel.
But do either of these get us closer to details of collusion?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
rough day in the WH
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:37 pm
by McParadigm
As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
Pure speculation, but perhaps because Cohen's is a State case, and Mueller's investigation is Federal, this means that any cooperation Cohen might offer Mueller will be taken into account at sentencing, but is not a clearly defined part of the deal as of yet
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
I have watched a ton of Law & Order
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:48 pm
by bune
McParadigm wrote:As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.
Aww, that's no fun.
tragabigzanda wrote:I have watched a ton of Law & Order

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
bune wrote:
Aww, that's no fun.
tragabigzanda wrote:I have watched a ton of Law & Order

What I wouldn't give for a Holiday Inn Express and a L&O marathon on TBS for the next two days.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
I know this is completely irrational, but there's something about Cohen's hangdog expression coupled with his adult babyfat that makes me feel sort of bad for him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 6:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 6:46 pm
by doug rr
tragabigzanda wrote:Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
4pm you idiot
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 6:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
doug rr wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today
4pm you idiot
lol sorry 2pm MT
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 7:01 pm
by McParadigm
Sounds like he’s pleading to campaign finance violations, presumably related to affair partner payments. It’ll be hard to sell the ”nothing to do with Trump” bunt that Republicans offered when the Manafort indictments happened.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 7:11 pm
by bune
Whoops.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 8:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Manafort news Breaking on WGN radio: Jury has come to agreement on eight counts, can't agree on ten others
Edit: Verdict is guilty on 8, by the way
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 8:34 pm
by tragabigzanda
I've previously read that in this sort of split scenario, the judge will take into account the defendant's behavior on and around ALL counts when it comes to sentencing.
Add to that the second case next month (with 1000 pieces of evidence scheduled to be presented), and he's still completely screwed.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 8:46 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Those 8 counts carry 30 years each or something like that, seems like overkill to bother with anymore trials for him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 8:47 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Die in jail you piece of traitorous garbage.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Tue August 21, 2018 8:55 pm
by doug rr
boom..counts 7 and 8 for cohen