Red Mosquito

Tuolumne wrote:I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

Tuolumne wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.

And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.

Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.

I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.

I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

theplatypus wrote:I knew it, I fucking knew you'd say that

96583UP wrote:

stip wrote:

Vindicator wrote:I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums

that was the case for S/T for the most part but it was less and less the case for each subsequent record.

I recall there being a lot of disappointment for LB when they debuted that Future Days at wrigley

Gigaton meanwhile is setting a totally different tone

it’s been a very successful marketing campaign thus far

tragabigzanda wrote:Hold on to your butts, team

Alternative Nation: Pearl Jam New Album ‘Gigaton’ Leaks, Is It Terrible?

stip wrote:

96583UP wrote:

stip wrote:

Vindicator wrote:I was here around the build up for Backspacer and Lighting Bolt and remember pretty much universal like for both albums when they released and how each one was better than the previous album, which then turned into eventual disdain for both albums

that was the case for S/T for the most part but it was less and less the case for each subsequent record.

I recall there being a lot of disappointment for LB when they debuted that Future Days at wrigley

Gigaton meanwhile is setting a totally different tone

it’s been a very successful marketing campaign thus far

The atmosphere right now is the most positive I can remember certainly since S/T - and perhaps eclipsing it

Birds in Hell wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

Guy who comes onto a messageboard to repeatedly moan about how horrible it is: "man, this place is toxic."

dimejinky99 wrote:Danny clinch

I got to hear the new Pearl Jam record on my BIrthday !!! What a gift , and what an incredible record ! I think the band really pushed the envelope And created something very special . Cant wait to hear it live !!! So cool that Ed showed up and refreshed our tequlia’s ! Amazing

Coach wrote:Does anyone remember the build up on Five Horizons? That's where a ton of new album info came. That was always fun.

Coach wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Danny clinch

I got to hear the new Pearl Jam record on my BIrthday !!! What a gift , and what an incredible record ! I think the band really pushed the envelope And created something very special . Cant wait to hear it live !!! So cool that Ed showed up and refreshed our tequlia’s ! Amazing

Dime, I think it's going to be better than Rise of Skywalker.

theplatypus wrote:I knew it, I fucking knew you'd say that

dimejinky99 wrote:Danny clinch

I got to hear the new Pearl Jam record on my BIrthday !!! What a gift , and what an incredible record ! I think the band really pushed the envelope And created something very special . Cant wait to hear it live !!! So cool that Ed showed up and refreshed our tequlia’s ! Amazing