Red Mosquito

Tuolumne wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

Guy who comes onto a messageboard to repeatedly moan about how horrible it is: "man, this place is toxic."

Says the guy who repeatedly comes onto a Pearl Jam message board to repeatedly moan about Pearl Jam. L-O-L! No irony there at all.....

bune wrote:

Coach wrote:Does anyone remember the build up on Five Horizons? That's where a ton of new album info came. That was always fun.

insert obi-wan 'haven't heard that name in a long time' gif here.

Vindicator wrote:that altnation guy takes click bait to the next level god damn

Homeboyd wrote:

Vindicator wrote:that altnation guy takes click bait to the next level god damn

He is the absolute worst.

DWFB wrote:

evenslow wrote:

Mr. Eduardo Vedder wrote:“There’s a mystery to the creative process,” Vedder said. “Sometimes there’s an element that lands on it. You can pray, you can meditate -- but sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn’t. To say there was some magic involved with this [album] would be more self-confidence than I’ve ever had… but I think you’re going to hear it.”

Wait a minute, during an interview ed possibly implied he has prayed for inspiration? I admit for some reason, probably because it seems he's been back and forth for so msny years on the subject of belief in a god, I'm curious about Ed's personal beliefs and would like more insight into it.

Coach wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Danny clinch

I got to hear the new Pearl Jam record on my BIrthday !!! What a gift , and what an incredible record ! I think the band really pushed the envelope And created something very special . Cant wait to hear it live !!! So cool that Ed showed up and refreshed our tequlia’s ! Amazing

Dime, I think it's going to be better than Rise of Skywalker.

evenslow wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Danny clinch

I got to hear the new Pearl Jam record on my BIrthday !!! What a gift , and what an incredible record ! I think the band really pushed the envelope And created something very special . Cant wait to hear it live !!! So cool that Ed showed up and refreshed our tequlia’s ! Amazing

Classic B.

Tuolumne wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.

And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.

Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.

I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.

I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

Tuolumne wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

Guy who comes onto a messageboard to repeatedly moan about how horrible it is: "man, this place is toxic."

Says the guy who repeatedly comes onto a Pearl Jam message board to repeatedly moan about Pearl Jam. L-O-L! No irony there at all.....

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:From what I can interpret from these descriptions, I feel like the song variety and the possibly more layered work could make it fall into an attempt at Yield/Binaural territory.

And, I feel fortunate they're still around. It is very rare to have band situations where people are even around, together, and alive much less have an opportunity to put out a song like DoTC.

Some of the fan entitlement over the last 15 years, as if the band is required a certain level of customer service in terms of creative approach, is nauseating to me. I want them to make something that represents where they are spiritually at as accurately as possible. Whatever that is. If they can accomplish that to a successful degree, then it's good art to follow. The whole idea of people wanting specific tempos, styles, lyrics, and technical approaches, is a fanbase that has lost it's way more than the band themselves. They are not a fuckin jukebox.

I’m not sure why you have such a problem with fans - who love the band - discuss things they love most about the band and would like to see from them. This is the internet and a message board devoted to the band for discussions about the band. If we took your approach of “whatever they give is fine” then this board would cease to exist. Also I don’t think you really understand much of how this board interacts.

I was on the pre-historic nucleus of this board going way back to 1999-2000. Twenty fuckin years, so please save any 'new guys don't get this place' BS. I had a role in the earliest intelligent deep dive conversations that this board was about. It's gone to shit and I have every right to bitch about it. Lots of people like me have walked away, leaving this toilet bowl that always had so much potential. It's why I revisit every so often, to see if there is some life still left in here. It's probably better to just leave the same 20 people to circle jerk and prejudge their way into hating the next album after they've had 4 months to kick it around.

Just engage and post about the music? I've tried that, but it gets followed up w/ 5 pages of snark that people who think they own this place believe is really charming (again, I was around these parts 20 years ago, if it's meant to be humorous and fails on any kind of comedic level). It's toxic, and I wish this place could help me enjoy the musical journey but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm pretty much right where Stip is, and I doubt I'll be able to experience Gigaton in any meaningful way here.

You are dragging way too much personal drama into this. Do you know how many of us love damn near everything pearl jam has done? You take comments from a minority of posters here and paint the rest of us with it.

But you continually come here and shit on EVERYONE who posts here yet continually comes back to point it out - and now I wonder if it’s you that craves the so called toxicity

You know I’m strat right ? Pj apologist for 28 fucking years.

Wow look at the ego on this guy

injuddstree wrote:

Homeboyd wrote:Based on the descriptions I'm most interested in Seven O'Clock...trippy mid-tempo pink floyd ballad should be right in this bands wheelhouse

6 minutes too. I'm getting some NAIS vibes.