Red Mosquito

verb_to_trust wrote:I'm picturing hundreds of 30 year old white dudes ready to defend Ye's honor.

You're thinking of Taylor Swift

Kanye is the one always thinking of Taylor Swift.

Waves is so good.

My only complaint here is that I miss the original version of "Fade" from that fashion show. It was more minimal, and banged a lot harder.

'Holy shit. I first listened to this album during my morning shower and when the "bum bam be dum" came on during Famous i just sat down and cried...'

Lol

verb_to_trust wrote:'Holy shit. I first listened to this album during my morning shower and when the "bum bam be dum" came on during Famous i just sat down and cried...'

Lol

who is that and when did i post it

Some dude from the reddit

This album definitely induces a lot of spontaneous welling-up of tears

I knew I knew that sample on "Freestyle 4". But it's Goldfrapp, not Charade.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Lol Nas's lyrics are basic shit compared to Kanye's. Don't get me wrong, I love Nas, but these are different levels of ability.

Bro honestly what the fuck

The SNL performances were interesting in that he is by far the worst thing about his own music. Especially Ultra Light Beam, fantastic song, great choral arrangement, Chance just fucking kills it with a great verse...and then there's Kanye with dreadful fucking auto-tune, ruining his own song, that he made. And then the awful shout-out to his website that kills the whole vibe he just set up. It's just kind of absurd at this point. Just get out of your own way dude.

Orpheus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Lol Nas's lyrics are basic shit compared to Kanye's. Don't get me wrong, I love Nas, but these are different levels of ability.

Bro honestly what the fuck

lol

Nas is great. He has written some stone-cold classics, and had a big hand in shaping the aesthetic and ideology of hip-hop as we know it. "Life's a Bitch" kind of changed my life. Technically, he's a "better" rapper than Ye, and his wordplay skills are superior.

But, these days, I find myself less compelled by his overtly "conscious" sociopolitical lyrics than Kanye's dizzying confluence of identity, politics, fashion, ego, insecurity, irony, self-awareness, humor, race, bravado, etc. Nas is certainly illuminating, but I think, ultimately, Ye is operating on a much more profound, personal, and insightful level. And Ye has a much more sophisticated grasp of narrative and perspective. He speaks to me way more directly.

Well nowadays Nas is basically retired, but looking at their primes, there's really no comparison.

Orph, I see you

Mecca wrote:Chance is easily the best rapper on this album

Orpheus wrote:Well nowadays Nas is basically retired, but looking at their primes, there's really no comparison.

Agreed. Kanye is far superior.

though i'd listen to an argument for kendrick lamar

Mecca wrote:Orph, I see you

Mecca wrote:Chance is easily the best rapper on this album

I need to go dig into Chance's first album a lot deeper, because every time I hear him guest on something it's some of the best shit I've ever heard.

I will agree that the autotune on ULB on SNL was very awkward. I loved the whole presentation as performance art, but he should just given raw vocals like on the album.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Well nowadays Nas is basically retired, but looking at their primes, there's really no comparison.

Agreed. Kanye is far superior.

It's useless to argue with you, so I won't, but you should probably listen to more Nas.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I will agree that the autotune on ULB on SNL was very awkward. I loved the whole presentation as performance art, but he should just given raw vocals like on the album.

I'm glad to hear that. But it's seriously getting to the point with him where I don't believe he's making the music almost. Like how can you make music that great and have a persona and rapping ability (in my opinion) that bad. It's really kind of bizarre.

I wish he would just say fuck it and make an album where he just produces, cause it would be really, really great.