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Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:11 am
by verb_to_trust
Strat wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:I bet Ive listened to this song 50 times already. I'm still sort of in shock that I liked it.
This is what happens when Westerberg stops writing music for us.
I'm just so used to being abused. It's fucked me up, man.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:11 am
by wease
evenslow wrote:oneway23 wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:wease wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:i wonder how much better ed would sound if he had just taken a break from the cigarettes. he always sounds so stuffy and congested.
I thought he quit.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just the sound of a dude in his 50s.
Bruce Dickinson is 61 and Rob Halford is 68. Everyone is obviously different, but, I find this to be a bit of a weak excuse.
I read someone on here the other day say that this is a result of Ed "going for it" for the past twenty-nine years. Look, I'm eternally grateful for everything he has provided me, but, there are many other singers who also have spent their careers "going for it" and simply haven't deteriorated to the same degree.
Thom Yorke is 51, and while he might not reach the heights he once did, I just don't believe that the band needs to consider working around his limitations when coming up with new material. Black Francis still sounds phenomenal live. His vocal choices on the new record are very clearly artistic.
To be fair, this could be worse, right? Ed could be Bono or Axl Rose
a) rob halford does not sound as good at age 68. no one on the planet does who is a hard rock singer. no one. no one at all.
b) you can't compare ed's voice and how he used it to thom fucking yorke and black francis. jesus christ.
Geddy Lee probably still sounds pretty good.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:12 am
by ridleybradout
I'm probably up to at least 50 listens too, most with headphones.
I don't think I've listened to a Pearl Jam song on repeat so much without getting the least bit sick of it since 'Sad'

Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:15 am
by Thejambi
wease wrote:evenslow wrote:oneway23 wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:wease wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:i wonder how much better ed would sound if he had just taken a break from the cigarettes. he always sounds so stuffy and congested.
I thought he quit.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just the sound of a dude in his 50s.
Bruce Dickinson is 61 and Rob Halford is 68. Everyone is obviously different, but, I find this to be a bit of a weak excuse.
I read someone on here the other day say that this is a result of Ed "going for it" for the past twenty-nine years. Look, I'm eternally grateful for everything he has provided me, but, there are many other singers who also have spent their careers "going for it" and simply haven't deteriorated to the same degree.
Thom Yorke is 51, and while he might not reach the heights he once did, I just don't believe that the band needs to consider working around his limitations when coming up with new material. Black Francis still sounds phenomenal live. His vocal choices on the new record are very clearly artistic.
To be fair, this could be worse, right? Ed could be Bono or Axl Rose
a) rob halford does not sound as good at age 68. no one on the planet does who is a hard rock singer. no one. no one at all.
b) you can't compare ed's voice and how he used it to thom fucking yorke and black francis. jesus christ.
Geddy Lee probably still sounds pretty good.
Yeah... I can’t support those comparisons at all. Smoking/Alcohol aside, Ed was lucky to have a voice at all after the 93/94 tours alone.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:16 am
by doug rr
verb_to_trust wrote:I bet Ive listened to this song 50 times already. I'm still sort of in shock that I liked it.
thats just the kombucha talking
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:18 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Has Joey said anything yet? He's looking their shit on Instagram
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:23 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Durds is actively avoiding this thread.
He must hate it.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:24 am
by melonhead4
oneway23 wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:wease wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:i wonder how much better ed would sound if he had just taken a break from the cigarettes. he always sounds so stuffy and congested.
I thought he quit.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just the sound of a dude in his 50s.
Bruce Dickinson is 61 and Rob Halford is 68. Everyone is obviously different, but, I find this to be a bit of a weak excuse.
I read someone on here the other day say that this is a result of Ed "going for it" for the past twenty-nine years. Look, I'm eternally grateful for everything he has provided me, but, there are many other singers who also have spent their careers "going for it" and simply haven't deteriorated to the same degree.
Thom Yorke is 51, and while he might not reach the heights he once did, I just don't believe that the band needs to consider working around his limitations when coming up with new material. Black Francis still sounds phenomenal live. His vocal choices on the new record are very clearly artistic.
To be fair, this could be worse, right? Ed could be Bono, Perry Farrell, or Axl Rose
Thee Bruce Dickinson?
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:25 am
by verb_to_trust
doug rr wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:I bet Ive listened to this song 50 times already. I'm still sort of in shock that I liked it.
thats just the kombucha talking
I haven't been booch Steppin' with DoC yet but it's a GREAT idea!
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:27 am
by oneway23
evenslow wrote:
a) rob halford does not sound as good at age 68. no one on the planet does who is a hard rock singer. no one. no one at all.
b) you can't compare ed's voice and how he used it to thom fucking yorke and black francis. jesus christ.
Why not? Ed doesn't exist in a vacuum. My point is that he could have been far more proactive in properly caring for his voice.
Geddy Lee is actually a great example here. He sounded horrific on the Clockwork Angels tour, and he knew it. Changed up his diet and exercise regimen, and came back for the R40 run completely re-invigorated & committed. He recognized an issue with his instrument and did everything he could to rectify the issues he was having.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:34 am
by wease
melonhead4 wrote:oneway23 wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:wease wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:i wonder how much better ed would sound if he had just taken a break from the cigarettes. he always sounds so stuffy and congested.
I thought he quit.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just the sound of a dude in his 50s.
Bruce Dickinson is 61 and Rob Halford is 68. Everyone is obviously different, but, I find this to be a bit of a weak excuse.
I read someone on here the other day say that this is a result of Ed "going for it" for the past twenty-nine years. Look, I'm eternally grateful for everything he has provided me, but, there are many other singers who also have spent their careers "going for it" and simply haven't deteriorated to the same degree.
Thom Yorke is 51, and while he might not reach the heights he once did, I just don't believe that the band needs to consider working around his limitations when coming up with new material. Black Francis still sounds phenomenal live. His vocal choices on the new record are very clearly artistic.
To be fair, this could be worse, right? Ed could be Bono, Perry Farrell, or Axl Rose
Thee Bruce Dickinson?
He’s the cock of the walk, baby!
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:38 am
by oneway23
melonhead4 wrote:Thee Bruce Dickinson?

Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:48 am
by Hatfield
96583UP wrote:
- I understand that the outtro layered vocals appeals to many. I never fell into the hipster/Arcade Fire movement of the last 15 years where a half dozen white people start singing in unison and little girls in the crowd feel epic. Interesting to see that PJ finally chose to mimic that tactic. Not surprising so many people like it bc so many people have terrible taste in music and enjoyed that whole hipster white privilege movement

Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:54 am
by WtOB?
96583UP wrote:- I understand that the outtro layered vocals appeals to many. I never fell into the hipster/Arcade Fire movement of the last 15 years where a half dozen white people start singing in unison and little girls in the crowd feel epic. Interesting to see that PJ finally chose to mimic that tactic. Not surprising so many people like it bc so many people have terrible taste in music and enjoyed that whole hipster white privilege movement
be careful of that intersectionality, it ended up killing harmless.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 12:58 am
by Homeboyd
oneway23 wrote:evenslow wrote:
a) rob halford does not sound as good at age 68. no one on the planet does who is a hard rock singer. no one. no one at all.
b) you can't compare ed's voice and how he used it to thom fucking yorke and black francis. jesus christ.
Why not? Ed doesn't exist in a vacuum. My point is that he could have been far more proactive in properly caring for his voice.
Geddy Lee is actually a great example here. He sounded horrific on the Clockwork Angels tour, and he knew it. Changed up his diet and exercise regimen, and came back for the R40 run completely re-invigorated & committed. He recognized an issue with his instrument and did everything he could to rectify the issues he was having.
I saw Rush on that tour (and a number of others) and can confirm he sounded bad. Now, a huge difference is that for a live Rush show, Getty’s singing is almost superfluous. They were still awesome because of the nature of the band and the songs. PJ has always been highly reliant on Ed’s singing for better or worse.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 1:02 am
by Jaeti
Non-PJ fan anecdote – my wife, 30 y/o (nine younger than me), very accepting of my fandom but hasn't gotten into the band herself
It was just bathtime for my 16-month-old, and he's been bopping his head to this song the past couple of mornings. I put it on again and heard my wife react to him start some clapping along and said, "New Pearl Jam, he's been enjoying it." Halfway through the song she says, "This is good, I like it."
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 1:29 am
by bodysnatcher
Birds in Hell wrote:I hate Arcade Fire. I don’t hear that kind of thing in the song at all.
Me either. I don’t hear any Haitian appropriation.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 1:30 am
by oneway23
Jaeti wrote:Non-PJ fan anecdote – my wife, 30 y/o (nine younger than me), very accepting of my fandom but hasn't gotten into the band herself
It was just bathtime for my 16-month-old, and he's been bopping his head to this song the past couple of mornings. I put it on again and heard my wife react to him start some clapping along and said, "New Pearl Jam, he's been enjoying it." Halfway through the song she says, "This is good, I like it."

Hooks sunk in to another!
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 1:33 am
by tree_
He was bopping his head cause you ere expressing joy. Please express joy about better/more things to him. Try classic Disney on Spotify.
Re: Dance of the Clairvoyants
Posted: Fri January 24, 2020 1:37 am
by SatanicDmitrispearljam
Honest question. No snark. Did Harmless really die?