Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:This claim was sent to a Republican.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:Also curious....a mere passing thought...

Do you think any of this stuff may have been in his files that the Republicans withheld from the judiciary committee and republicans?

100%

tragabigzanda wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

McParadigm wrote:The entire effect it will have is this: he acknowledged a willingness to replace. Privately, he’s been super aggressive about keeping him, so republicans have responded to that. Put him in front of the press, he says otherwise, and a lot of the party pressure on senators just vanishes.

my sense is that the real pressure has been from Grassley and McConell (and probably some other senators who are less front and center), because they have an idiology to assert. Trump's pressure to ram Kavanaugh through is more about him winning than having anything to do with the future of federal law; he'd be just as happy to have a chimpanzee on the Supreme Court, so long as it for him good ratings.

By all means, push back if you think i'm wrong, but i fail to see another narrative

Vote drumming is a primary job of legislative leadership. There is no scenario where Kavanaugh is the nominee and they don’t exhibit exactly the behaviors you describe. Ever. White House refusal to rescind their selection is the only reason for all this spinning. The seat is theirs either way.

Remember, McConnell was opposed to even nominating Kavanaugh, exactly because it would be hard to get the votes.

i did not know this, thanks for clarifying! i still don't think Trump has any ideology beyond himself, but of course BK would protect Trump from indictment so i'm seeing your position much better now.

tragabigzanda wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Only Dr. Ford’s claims went through Democrat channels. What do any of the other claims even have to do with Democrats?

yeah sorry i was only referring to Dr Ford. i'm typing like a nitwit as i scarf some vietnamese noodles at thee bar

tragabigzanda wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Only Dr. Ford’s claims went through Democrat channels. What do any of the other claims even have to do with Democrats?

yeah sorry i was only referring to Dr Ford. i'm typing like a nitwit as i scarf some vietnamese noodles at thee bar

McParadigm wrote:Is Ronan Farrow secretly Nancy Pelosi, and nobody told me?

McParadigm wrote:

McParadigm wrote:This claim was sent to a Republican.

This is from the 90’s. Not high school.

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:they were dimmer once the words gang bang started trending, pretty tough to spin that.

Does anyone in the world sincerely believe Kavanaugh is a rampaging sexpest, though?

It all seems like some horrifying, shameful beat-up.

i know guys who engaged in similar behavior in high school and college, and a couple of them were from upper class families. that doesn't mean he's guilty, obviously, but it's enough to convince me of the possibility.

Even if it were possible, how is anyone able to come to a conclusion on any firm basis considering the fallibility of memory and the passage of time? That these allegations should bar the guy from being a Supreme Court judge absent some extremely compelling evidence seems bizarre, but the political nature of the confirmation process in general seems very weird to me.

96583UP wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:they were dimmer once the words gang bang started trending, pretty tough to spin that.

Does anyone in the world sincerely believe Kavanaugh is a rampaging sexpest, though?

It all seems like some horrifying, shameful beat-up.

i know guys who engaged in similar behavior in high school and college, and a couple of them were from upper class families. that doesn't mean he's guilty, obviously, but it's enough to convince me of the possibility.

Even if it were possible, how is anyone able to come to a conclusion on any firm basis considering the fallibility of memory and the passage of time? That these allegations should bar the guy from being a Supreme Court judge absent some extremely compelling evidence seems bizarre, but the political nature of the confirmation process in general seems very weird to me.

dude, there is compelling evidence - multiple people corroborating.

96583UP wrote:just because the GOP is choosing to bypass normal criminal investigation of these claims does not mean that the allegations are not compelling. it means that they are choosing authoritarianism over justice

BurtReynolds wrote:Actually "I don't believe the claims"is wrong. Just that I haven't seen any evidence one way or the other yet.

96583UP wrote:you're on the wrong side of the fence here burt

there's nothing anarchistic about rooting for a guy that rapes people and helped GWB enact the Patriot Act