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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 5:59 pm
by Simple Torture

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 6:10 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I probably would

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 6:18 pm
by digster
He's reconsidering all the old hits, apparently.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/p ... isons.html
The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.

President Trump’s three-page draft order, titled “Detention and Interrogation of Enemy Combatants” and obtained by The New York Times, would also undo many of the other restrictions on handling detainees that Mr. Obama put in place in response to policies of the George W. Bush administration.

If Mr. Trump signs the draft order, he would also revoke Mr. Obama’s directive to give the International Committee of the Red Cross access to all detainees in American custody. That would be another step toward reopening secret prisons outside of the normal wartime rules established by the Geneva Conventions, although statutory obstacles would remain.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 6:27 pm
by bune
Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run For Office
For American science, the next four years look to be challenging. The newly inaugurated President Trump, and many of his Cabinet picks, have repeatedly cast doubt upon the reality of human-made climate change, questioned the repeatedly proven safety of vaccines. Since the inauguration, the administration has already frozen grants and contracts by the Environmental Protection Agency and gagged researchers at the US Department of Agriculture. Many scientists are asking themselves: What can I do?

And the answer from a newly formed group called 314 Action is: Get elected.

The organization, named after the first three digits of pi, is a political action committee that was created to support scientists in running for office. It’s the science version of Emily’s List, which focuses on pro-choice female candidates, or VoteVets, which backs war veterans. “A lot of scientists traditionally feel that science is above politics but we’re seeing that politics is not above getting involved in science,” says founder Shaughnessy Naughton. “We’re losing, and the only way to stop that is to get more people with scientific backgrounds at the table.”
Hope this goes well for them.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 6:48 pm
by digster
McParadigm wrote:
...40% of Trump voters identified the wrong picture as being the one of trump's inauguration. 15% of Trump voters in another group identified the correct picture as being from this year, but insisted that IT HAD MORE PEOPLE IN IT than the other image. Not from memory, but WHILE looking at the image.

If he tells them he found proof of 10 million illegal votes, and that "certain measures" have to be taken to address voter fraud, they will believe it and cheer for how he is saving democracy.
Far more than anything to do with 'fake news', this is the thing that is most in danger of screwing us. The backfire effect is the scariest thing in political debate, and it's ever-present.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 6:59 pm
by Bi_3
digster wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
...40% of Trump voters identified the wrong picture as being the one of trump's inauguration. 15% of Trump voters in another group identified the correct picture as being from this year, but insisted that IT HAD MORE PEOPLE IN IT than the other image. Not from memory, but WHILE looking at the image.

If he tells them he found proof of 10 million illegal votes, and that "certain measures" have to be taken to address voter fraud, they will believe it and cheer for how he is saving democracy.
Far more than anything to do with 'fake news', this is the thing that is most in danger of screwing us. The backfire effect is the scariest thing in political debate, and it's ever-present.
Well, you have to multiply the people in the picture on the right by 3/5.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 7:09 pm
by bune
Don't you have to divide by a fraction to make numbers bigger? Multiplying makes them smaller...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 7:34 pm
by Kaius
bune wrote:Don't you have to divide by a fraction to make numbers bigger? Multiplying makes them smaller...
The picture on the right had more people. And black people. Of whom their ancestors were once slaves. It's a throwback joke. Good one too.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 7:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Kaius wrote:
bune wrote:Don't you have to divide by a fraction to make numbers bigger? Multiplying makes them smaller...
The picture on the right had more people. And black people. Of whom their ancestors were once slaves. It's a throwback joke. Good one too.
Kind of an odd question though, right? I mean both scenarios are of your partner ploughing someone, so whats the difference?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 7:53 pm
by dimejinky99
Soooo...Where will he get the Manuel labour to build this wall? Eh? Eh? :naughty:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:04 pm
by bune
Kaius wrote:
bune wrote:Don't you have to divide by a fraction to make numbers bigger? Multiplying makes them smaller...
The picture on the right had more people. And black people. Of whom their ancestors were once slaves. It's a throwback joke. Good one too.
me = whoosh. :oops:
dimejinky99 wrote:Soooo...Where will he get the Manuel labour to build this wall? Eh? Eh? :naughty:
See, this one's funny on a different layer as we have these thongs called "manual temp" folders and they weren't trackable in our bar code system so employees had to put notes into the system saying "delivered manual temp to xyz". But almost 90% of the time they wrote Manuel. So we as file clerks would go around asking people where the temp employee Manuel was. Yeah, we were a regular riot.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:16 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Kaius wrote:
bune wrote:Don't you have to divide by a fraction to make numbers bigger? Multiplying makes them smaller...
The picture on the right had more people. And black people. Of whom their ancestors were once slaves. It's a throwback joke. Good one too.
Kind of an odd question though, right? I mean both scenarios are of your partner ploughing someone, so whats the difference?
AL :thumbsup:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:17 pm
by wease
Ha ha. Steve Bannon is registered to vote in 2 states. Keep that investigation rolling Trump.

In other news, Trump confirms American tax dollars will be used to pay for his Mexican Border Wall but the American people will absolutely be paid back.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:43 pm
by McParadigm
wease wrote:Ha ha. Steve Bannon is registered to vote in 2 states. Keep that investigation rolling Trump.
And Steven Mnuchin

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:47 pm
by Strat
We are the middle of a crisis on our southern border. I believe the steps we take right now will improve the safety for both our countries. The United States of America gets back control of it's borders, gets back it's borders.
I just signed two executive orders that will save thousands of lives, millions of jobs and billions and billions of dollars.
We are going to save lives on both sides of the border and we also understand that a strong and healthy economy in Mexico is good for the United States.
I think our relationship with Mexico is going to get better.
The Secretary of Homeland Security will begin immediate construction of a border wall. So badly needed.
We are going to get the bad ones out, the criminals drug dealers and gangs, gang leaders and cartel leaders. The day is over where they can stay in our country and wreak havoc.
Our order also ends the policy of catch and release at the border. Requires other countries to take back their criminals, cracks down on sanctuary cities.
Calls for hiring of 5000 border patrol officers, the tripling of ICE officers.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 8:51 pm
by dimejinky99
Hasnt trump ever heard of all the tunnels under the border used to smuggle drugs into the US?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 9:02 pm
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:Hasnt trump ever heard of all the tunnels under the border used to smuggle drugs into the US?
Fake news!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 9:26 pm
by Strat
Why doesnt Stip post in here?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 9:47 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:Why doesnt Stip post in here?
Alternative facts!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 25, 2017 10:14 pm
by Birds in Hell
bune wrote:Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run For Office
For American science, the next four years look to be challenging. The newly inaugurated President Trump, and many of his Cabinet picks, have repeatedly cast doubt upon the reality of human-made climate change, questioned the repeatedly proven safety of vaccines. Since the inauguration, the administration has already frozen grants and contracts by the Environmental Protection Agency and gagged researchers at the US Department of Agriculture. Many scientists are asking themselves: What can I do?

And the answer from a newly formed group called 314 Action is: Get elected.

The organization, named after the first three digits of pi, is a political action committee that was created to support scientists in running for office. It’s the science version of Emily’s List, which focuses on pro-choice female candidates, or VoteVets, which backs war veterans. “A lot of scientists traditionally feel that science is above politics but we’re seeing that politics is not above getting involved in science,” says founder Shaughnessy Naughton. “We’re losing, and the only way to stop that is to get more people with scientific backgrounds at the table.”
Hope this goes well for them.
This sounds like a not very good idea.