Red Mosquito

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Release_Me wrote:CC is a solid 4.5 star song for me. That's heading into Black/Nothingman/Immortality territory as far as PJ's slower songs/ballads are concerned. The only thing needed to make it a 5 star song is for Ed to redo the vocals. Not differently, just better. I love his approach and I don't want him to sing lower or in a different tone as some have suggested. I just think there is never a good enough reason for a studio song to have unintentional voice breaks like this one does.

Madness.

There's a very good chance this is my favourite Vedder vocal on record ever; it's certainly top 5 material. It's perfect.

The cracks /breaks are what gives this so much character. They're my favourite bits too.

I'm sure that this song was never meant to see the light of day. I can't see Ed ever releasing something so bare and can't see him ever wanting to revisit it ever again, whether that be live or again in the studio. IMHO, it's this song that has made 10C wipe away any written trace on the pit.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Release_Me wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Release_Me wrote:CC is a solid 4.5 star song for me. That's heading into Black/Nothingman/Immortality territory as far as PJ's slower songs/ballads are concerned. The only thing needed to make it a 5 star song is for Ed to redo the vocals. Not differently, just better. I love his approach and I don't want him to sing lower or in a different tone as some have suggested. I just think there is never a good enough reason for a studio song to have unintentional voice breaks like this one does.

Madness.

There's a very good chance this is my favourite Vedder vocal on record ever; it's certainly top 5 material. It's perfect.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I love what he's trying to do, I just think he can do it better and without his voice actually breaking.

That's where I am too. But in a way the rough feel to this does sort of add to it. It'd probably end up all polished and shiney had it made the record.

Release_Me wrote:Well, to me it's the 'breathiness' of the vocals which give the song it's character. I don't think the voice breaking adds anything to it.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Release_Me wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Release_Me wrote:CC is a solid 4.5 star song for me. That's heading into Black/Nothingman/Immortality territory as far as PJ's slower songs/ballads are concerned. The only thing needed to make it a 5 star song is for Ed to redo the vocals. Not differently, just better. I love his approach and I don't want him to sing lower or in a different tone as some have suggested. I just think there is never a good enough reason for a studio song to have unintentional voice breaks like this one does.

Madness.

There's a very good chance this is my favourite Vedder vocal on record ever; it's certainly top 5 material. It's perfect.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I love what he's trying to do, I just think he can do it better and without his voice actually breaking.

I particularly love that pained, crackling quality in his voice.

Embracing, rather than trying to deny, the limitations of his weathered instrument is exactly what I want to hear Ed doing more often.

Release_Me wrote:Regardless, I believe this song won't see the light of studio again in all likelihood, so this debate is moot.

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Release_Me wrote:Regardless, I believe this song won't see the light of studio again in all likelihood, so this debate is moot.

But... but... but... we want it on the new record!

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Release_Me wrote:Well, to me it's the 'breathiness' of the vocals which give the song it's character. I don't think the voice breaking adds anything to it.

I agree. It's actually taking away from the song. Let's admit it - bad singing has never done any good to a song, and this singing was plain bad.

WtOB? wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Release_Me wrote:Well, to me it's the 'breathiness' of the vocals which give the song it's character. I don't think the voice breaking adds anything to it.

I agree. It's actually taking away from the song. Let's admit it - bad singing has never done any good to a song, and this singing was plain bad.

No, this is bad singing:


What he's doing on CC is an artistic choice, not bad singing. I happen to think it's really good singing. Vulnerable doesn't mean bad.

Release_Me wrote:CC is a solid 4.5 star song for me. That's heading into Black/Nothingman/Immortality territory as far as PJ's slower songs/ballads are concerned. The only thing needed to make it a 5 star song is for Ed to redo the vocals. Not differently, just better. I love his approach and I don't want him to sing lower or in a different tone as some have suggested. I just think there is never a good enough reason for a studio song to have unintentional voice breaks like this one does. That's probably because this is a demo and Ed did only one take. If the vocals could be redone, this song would be the best slow one they made since Vitalogy. It's that good.

LIR is sitting somewhere close to 4 stars for me. The first half of the song I'm just waiting to get over with so I can listen to the eargasm that is the second half. Again, could do with a slightly better vocal but very good song nonetheless.

MYM is also sitting at 4.5 stars at the moment. I think it's the best song they've made with this kind of blueprint. I prefer it to STBC because it is more melodic.

I'm liking LB at least as much as LIR at the moment. It's more engaging from the get-go and Ed's vocals just soar. LIR has that amazing second half though so hard to split the two.

FD is easily the song I like the least from the five which have surfaced. 3 stars at this point. I put it in the same boat as most PJ ballads post Vitalogy; Around The Bend, All Those Yesterdays, Thin Air, Parting Ways, etc. Pretty, but not essential PJ. I do relate to the sentiment because I'm married and our first one is on the way.

Thejambi wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Release_Me wrote:Well, to me it's the 'breathiness' of the vocals which give the song it's character. I don't think the voice breaking adds anything to it.

I agree. It's actually taking away from the song. Let's admit it - bad singing has never done any good to a song, and this singing was plain bad.

No, this is bad singing:


What he's doing on CC is an artistic choice, not bad singing. I happen to think it's really good singing. Vulnerable doesn't mean bad.

Same can be said for The End.

Strat wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:

Release_Me wrote:Well, to me it's the 'breathiness' of the vocals which give the song it's character. I don't think the voice breaking adds anything to it.

I agree. It's actually taking away from the song. Let's admit it - bad singing has never done any good to a song, and this singing was plain bad.

No, this is bad singing:


What he's doing on CC is an artistic choice, not bad singing. I happen to think it's really good singing. Vulnerable doesn't mean bad.

Same can be said for The End.

Aw man, I like the fixer.

Also, I can't help it. I love the mans voice and ill take his "bad" singing any day

EJ wrote:Just think buried in the vault, there exists recorded versions of Thin Air, Of The Girl, and Parting Ways with Jack Irons.

That would give us all yet another way of retracking Binaural.

Jaeti wrote:Well shit, why'd this all happen when I was on vacation instead of sitting here at work? I hope there's still a way for me to get my ears on them.

dimejinky99 wrote:I always wonder if we swapped all the drummers around what it would be like


I'd say dave would have been killer for Yield and possibly Binaural.

Jack would have been great for Binaural and Backspacer I think.

elliseamos wrote:

Jaeti wrote:Well shit, why'd this all happen when I was on vacation instead of sitting here at work? I hope there's still a way for me to get my ears on them.

just search for platypus's posts.