Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Malloy wrote:never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

warehouse wrote:

Anders wrote:Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

He said "Hi, Love you" and compared her to a hot character in an old movie, because they both have short hair... ohhh burrnnnnn

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

He said "Hi, Love you" and compared her to a hot character in an old movie, because they both have short hair... ohhh burrnnnnn

and back to square one

this was fun Tree

The Argonaut wrote:Don't call names, tree. I will ban you

Anders wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Anders wrote:Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

This is a quote from Will Smith.

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Malloy wrote:never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

warehouse wrote:

Anders wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Anders wrote:Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

This is a quote from Will Smith.

after talking to his lawyer?

tree_ wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:Don't call names, tree. I will ban you

I didn't... looneyville is a place

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Malloy wrote:never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

Your politics beyond this thread are entirely irrelevant.

tree_ wrote:Yeah, if you have different opinions than what you've typed on here, how could any of us possibly know?

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:

Malloy wrote:never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

Your politics beyond this thread are entirely irrelevant.

I made a statement about where I stood politically as a whole, so no, they aren't; I get called an evil commie a lot, I thought that was what you were doing -- I was wrong; I'm not sure what else you want for the observations and records you're drawing up about me

Ms. Harmless wrote:

Mickey wrote:The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no