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Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 8:51 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:I think she conveys both intelligence and vulnerability really well. She definitely strikes me having been trained at Juliard -- she's got that sort of composure about her. The only thing that bothers me sometimes is that her voice sounds very fragile, which sometimes makes her sound weak (Kevin Costner has the same problem).
I think her performances feel
too trained. She comes off very stilted and "actorly" to me, and in the worst way. I never
believe her, especially since a lot of her roles call for some grit and naturalism (
Zero Dark Thirty...ugggghhhh).
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 8:57 pm
by contamination
tragabigzanda wrote:I think she conveys both intelligence and vulnerability really well. She definitely strikes me having been trained at Juliard -- she's got that sort of composure about her. The only thing that bothers me sometimes is that her voice sounds very fragile, which sometimes makes her sound weak (Kevin Costner has the same problem).
How about Gillian Andersons voice in the new X-Files. I've been wondering if anyone else has noticed that - she sounds like Miles Davis, half of it is whispering.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:04 pm
by McParadigm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I think she conveys both intelligence and vulnerability really well. She definitely strikes me having been trained at Juliard -- she's got that sort of composure about her. The only thing that bothers me sometimes is that her voice sounds very fragile, which sometimes makes her sound weak (Kevin Costner has the same problem).
I think her performances feel
too trained. She comes off very stilted and "actorly" to me, and in the worst way. I never
believe her, especially since a lot of her roles call for some grit and naturalism (
Zero Dark Thirty...ugggghhhh).
I can see where you're coming from on that.
I'd call her good, but not great. She conveys her characters very well without imbuing them with anything beyond what's on the page.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:09 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I think she conveys both intelligence and vulnerability really well. She definitely strikes me having been trained at Juliard -- she's got that sort of composure about her. The only thing that bothers me sometimes is that her voice sounds very fragile, which sometimes makes her sound weak (Kevin Costner has the same problem).
I think her performances feel
too trained. She comes off very stilted and "actorly" to me, and in the worst way. I never
believe her, especially since a lot of her roles call for some grit and naturalism (
Zero Dark Thirty...ugggghhhh).
I can see that, I can definitely see the "training" you're talking about. I think that so far it's worked for her characters. For example, her character in ZDT would probably be overly composed given that she's a young woman in such intense circumstances. I'd love to see something where she really lets go, lets herself get raw and messy.
Crimson Peak was the closest I've come to liking her, because it calls for something a little over-the-top and actorly.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:10 pm
by LoathedVermin72
McParadigm wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I think she conveys both intelligence and vulnerability really well. She definitely strikes me having been trained at Juliard -- she's got that sort of composure about her. The only thing that bothers me sometimes is that her voice sounds very fragile, which sometimes makes her sound weak (Kevin Costner has the same problem).
I think her performances feel
too trained. She comes off very stilted and "actorly" to me, and in the worst way. I never
believe her, especially since a lot of her roles call for some grit and naturalism (
Zero Dark Thirty...ugggghhhh).
I can see where you're coming from on that.
I'd call her good, but not great. She conveys her characters very well without imbuing them with anything beyond what's on the page.
Still further than I would go, but I'm sure a lot of the scripts she chooses aren't helping her.
"
I'm the motherfucker that found the place!"

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:12 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i generally like her, but i agree on her not being right for zero dark thirty
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:47 pm
by epilogue
I like her. And she was outstanding in Zero Dark Thirty. She's not elite. She's not one of the all time greats. She's not Meryl or Gillian Anderson or Julian Moore. But she's got real chops. And so far I've believed her in every role I've seen her in. And she's just a lovely human being.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:50 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:I like her. And she was outstanding in Zero Dark Thirty. She's not elite. She's not one of the all time greats. She's not Meryl or Gillian Anderson or Julian Moore. But she's got real chops. And so far I've believed her in every role I've seen her in. And she's just a lovely human being.
I'm sorry, Joey, but we just can't be friends anymore. I feel terrible it had to end like this.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 9:54 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I like her. And she was outstanding in Zero Dark Thirty. She's not elite. She's not one of the all time greats. She's not Meryl or Gillian Anderson or Julian Moore. But she's got real chops. And so far I've believed her in every role I've seen her in. And she's just a lovely human being.
I'm sorry, Joey, but we just can't be friends anymore. I feel terrible it had to end like this.

I got the feeling you were never that invested anyway.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 11:08 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I like her. And she was outstanding in Zero Dark Thirty. She's not elite. She's not one of the all time greats. She's not Meryl or Gillian Anderson or Julian Moore. But she's got real chops. And so far I've believed her in every role I've seen her in. And she's just a lovely human being.
I'm sorry, Joey, but we just can't be friends anymore. I feel terrible it had to end like this.

I got the feeling you were never that invested anyway.
You never even knew what we had.

Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Fri February 19, 2016 11:09 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I like her. And she was outstanding in Zero Dark Thirty. She's not elite. She's not one of the all time greats. She's not Meryl or Gillian Anderson or Julian Moore. But she's got real chops. And so far I've believed her in every role I've seen her in. And she's just a lovely human being.
I'm sorry, Joey, but we just can't be friends anymore. I feel terrible it had to end like this.

I got the feeling you were never that invested anyway.
You never even knew what we had.

I'M NOT THE ONE THROWING IT ALL AWAY JORDAN
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 5:22 pm
by Strat
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 5:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 5:44 pm
by VinylGuy
I need to read that book. Im a huge King's fan but somehow thats one i keep missing.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 5:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 6:21 pm
by dpupenya
tragabigzanda wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I need to read that book. Im a huge King's fan but somehow thats one i keep missing.
Also a huge fan.
It was one of his first books I ever read as a teen, and I counted it as one of my favorites for a long time. Now I'd put it firmly in the middle of the pack. My top 5 King books:
Salem's Lot
The Shining
Heart in Atlantis
11/22/63
The Dead Zone
I've not read any Dark Tower books beyond The Gunslinger, simply because I want to read all his stand-alone books before tackling that series. Only have a handful left to get through, but keep putting off poorly-reviewed ones like Rose Madder and Dreamcatcher.
Just finished Revival a few days ago, I put a brief review in the "Currently Reading" thread.
Can't believe The Stand can't crack your top 5
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 6:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 6:31 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I need to read that book. Im a huge King's fan but somehow thats one i keep missing.
Also a huge fan.
It was one of his first books I ever read as a teen, and I counted it as one of my favorites for a long time. Now I'd put it firmly in the middle of the pack. My top 5 King books:
Salem's Lot
The Shining
Heart in Atlantis
11/22/63
The Dead Zone
I've not read any Dark Tower books beyond The Gunslinger, simply because I want to read all his stand-alone books before tackling that series. Only have a handful left to get through, but keep putting off poorly-reviewed ones like Rose Madder and Dreamcatcher.
Just finished Revival a few days ago, I put a brief review in the "Currently Reading" thread.
What about Lisey's story? I think its a modern masterpiece.
Re: The Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread
Posted: Sat February 20, 2016 6:34 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.