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Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sat December 14, 2013 7:01 am
by verb_to_trust
The idea of saving a player for the playoffs is so flawed its ridiculous. Maybe they should keep LeBron on ice until the conference semis?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Sat December 14, 2013 9:00 am
by gems and rhinestones
verb_to_trust wrote:The idea of saving a player for the playoffs is so flawed its ridiculous. Maybe they should keep LeBron on ice until the conference semis?
He doesn't really have a history of getting injured though. I'd risk it and play him to get home court advantage.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 4:55 pm
by 4/5
verb_to_trust wrote:The idea of saving a player for the playoffs is so flawed its ridiculous.
Why? He's a luxury. The Heat aren't counting on him even one little bit. But he's worth the 15th roster spot for the chance that he'll be healthy enough to give them 10 minutes a night in the ECF.

I've read nothing to suggest he could do that right now, but hopefully come February or March he's healthy enough to start getting a few minutes here and there and can stay healthy enough to be a big body between Hibbert and the basket for a few minutes each night against Indy.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 5:46 pm
by Monkey_Driven
The Suns and Blazers are the real surprises this year. The Blazers in particular have been so much fun to watch.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 10:47 pm
by matt reeder
Monkey_Driven wrote:The Suns and Blazers are the real surprises this year. The Blazers in particular have been so much fun to watch.
Speaking as a Blazers fan, I can't believe how fun this year has been so far. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop - see the long discussion on Greg? Oden over the last few pages. I don't want to get into how I feel about Greg? Oden - too many sad memories.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Mon December 16, 2013 10:53 pm
by red calzolaio
matt reeder wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:The Suns and Blazers are the real surprises this year. The Blazers in particular have been so much fun to watch.
Speaking as a Blazers fan, I can't believe how fun this year has been so far. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop - see the long discussion on Greg? Oden over the last few pages. I don't want to get into how I feel about Greg? Oden - too many sad memories.
or Sam Bowie...

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 4:37 pm
by 4/5
Question for Verb as a Bulls fans, and everybody else in general: Should Thibs take some blame for the Bulls constant rash of injuries because of the demanding style he imposes and big minutes his best contributors often play? I'm not trying to troll here, and I think Thibs is a very, very good head coach. I'm also not arguing that this is so, but it's a question that definitely comes into my head from time to time. Are the Bulls injuries mostly the result of bad luck, having injury prone guys, Thib's style, demand for high minutes...something else altogether? I don't watch enough Bulls basketball on night in night out basis to be able to answer these questions, so I'm curious what others think.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Tue December 17, 2013 4:48 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:Question for Verb as a Bulls fans, and everybody else in general: Should Thibs take some blame for the Bulls constant rash of injuries because of the demanding style he imposes and big minutes his best contributors often play? I'm not trying to troll here, and I think Thibs is a very, very good head coach. I'm also not arguing that this is so, but it's a question that definitely comes into my head from time to time. Are the Bulls injuries mostly the result of bad luck, having injury prone guys, Thib's style, demand for high minutes...something else altogether? I don't watch enough Bulls basketball on night in night out basis to be able to answer these questions, so I'm curious what others think.
That is definitely a good part of the reason. That in combination with their style of never taking a night "off" and just bad luck.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 5:36 am
by verb_to_trust
4/5 wrote:Question for Verb as a Bulls fans, and everybody else in general: Should Thibs take some blame for the Bulls constant rash of injuries because of the demanding style he imposes and big minutes his best contributors often play? I'm not trying to troll here, and I think Thibs is a very, very good head coach. I'm also not arguing that this is so, but it's a question that definitely comes into my head from time to time. Are the Bulls injuries mostly the result of bad luck, having injury prone guys, Thib's style, demand for high minutes...something else altogether? I don't watch enough Bulls basketball on night in night out basis to be able to answer these questions, so I'm curious what others think.
You make a pretty good point and bulls fans who are paying attention know thibs will run players into the ground. Derrick rose shouldn't have even been on the court his first ACL injury. That game was over. He played Omer Asik when he had a broken leg ('Fred cleared him'), Deng has been a league leader in minutes under thibs. Sometimes going balls to the wall to win every single regular season game can catch up to you, its a long season.

Damien lillard is cold by the way....

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 2:59 pm
by Monkey_Driven
verb_to_trust wrote:
4/5 wrote:Question for Verb as a Bulls fans, and everybody else in general: Should Thibs take some blame for the Bulls constant rash of injuries because of the demanding style he imposes and big minutes his best contributors often play? I'm not trying to troll here, and I think Thibs is a very, very good head coach. I'm also not arguing that this is so, but it's a question that definitely comes into my head from time to time. Are the Bulls injuries mostly the result of bad luck, having injury prone guys, Thib's style, demand for high minutes...something else altogether? I don't watch enough Bulls basketball on night in night out basis to be able to answer these questions, so I'm curious what others think.
You make a pretty good point and bulls fans who are paying attention know thibs will run players into the ground. Derrick rose shouldn't have even been on the court his first ACL injury. That game was over. He played Omer Asik when he had a broken leg ('Fred cleared him'), Deng has been a league leader in minutes under thibs. Sometimes going balls to the wall to win every single regular season game can catch up to you, its a long season.

Damien lillard is cold by the way....
Do you think Thibs will stay in Chicago for long? It seems like his relationship with Reinsdorf is rocky at best.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 3:47 pm
by pnjguy
The 'Thibs running players into the ground' comments are a bit overstated. If you're good, you play 32-39 minutes a game. That's on any team. My only issue with Thibs is that in blowouts, by in large, he still plays players the same amount minutes.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 1:35 am
by red calzolaio
my lord Joey Crawford needs to go.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 1:53 am
by verb_to_trust
Miami is going to have a very difficult time beating this pacers team in a seven game series....

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 1:57 am
by verb_to_trust
Monkey_Driven wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
4/5 wrote:Question for Verb as a Bulls fans, and everybody else in general: Should Thibs take some blame for the Bulls constant rash of injuries because of the demanding style he imposes and big minutes his best contributors often play? I'm not trying to troll here, and I think Thibs is a very, very good head coach. I'm also not arguing that this is so, but it's a question that definitely comes into my head from time to time. Are the Bulls injuries mostly the result of bad luck, having injury prone guys, Thib's style, demand for high minutes...something else altogether? I don't watch enough Bulls basketball on night in night out basis to be able to answer these questions, so I'm curious what others think.
You make a pretty good point and bulls fans who are paying attention know thibs will run players into the ground. Derrick rose shouldn't have even been on the court his first ACL injury. That game was over. He played Omer Asik when he had a broken leg ('Fred cleared him'), Deng has been a league leader in minutes under thibs. Sometimes going balls to the wall to win every single regular season game can catch up to you, its a long season.

Damien lillard is cold by the way....
Do you think Thibs will stay in Chicago for long? It seems like his relationship with Reinsdorf is rocky at best.
I think its more a gar Forman thing. Thibs hates that guy. Gar fired his top assistant basically just to let everyone know who is running the show. Thibs probably wishes he didn't have that new contract, there is no way the org is going to pay him to leave...

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 2:34 am
by red calzolaio
baffles me that people continue to leave shooters open like that.

that shite aint happenin if i'm out there.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 2:41 am
by verb_to_trust
Fuck both these teams

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 2:43 am
by red calzolaio
verb_to_trust wrote:Fuck both these teams
yea!

oh, so now you can hold onto a player when they are shooting. cool.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 2:45 am
by verb_to_trust
The fact boy George missed so far to the right kind of proves lebron changed the shot with the contact. Tough call to see though, most refs are probably not looking for that there.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 2:55 am
by Peeps
verb_to_trust wrote:The fact boy George missed so far to the right kind of proves lebron changed the shot with the contact. Tough call to see though, most refs are probably not looking for that there.
thats what george gets for flopping on the wade foul

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Thu December 19, 2013 3:30 am
by red calzolaio
Peeps wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:The fact boy George missed so far to the right kind of proves lebron changed the shot with the contact. Tough call to see though, most refs are probably not looking for that there.
thats what george gets for flopping on the wade foul
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