Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Mon April 22, 2024 9:37 pm
But its a weird dig, they could have hid the whole story if wanted to and they are still talking about how it happened
Hmm, I have my doubts...Kevin Davis wrote:Maybe we're going to find out that what's different about this album is that Watt actually wrote the whole thing.
That is reassuringly awfulBirds in Hell wrote:Hmm, I have my doubts...Kevin Davis wrote:Maybe we're going to find out that what's different about this album is that Watt actually wrote the whole thing.
This video is quite a rideBirds in Hell wrote:Hmm, I have my doubts...Kevin Davis wrote:Maybe we're going to find out that what's different about this album is that Watt actually wrote the whole thing.
VinylGuy wrote:yeah guys, its kinda weird a few of you are still on the fence with Watt. He did great with the band, the new album is awesome, the band is really happy and ready to tour.
Happy times.
This is beautiful.Tj wrote:I am just starting to except my opinion of this album isn't miss guided. That it is as remarkable as I felt upon first listen. I can't really overstate it. I was on a long drive with what I would call a reluctant pearl jam fan . What I mean by that is . This isn't a die hard but this person knows the catalog pretty well. Isn't overly moved by them and only a few at most songs resonate with this individual. The person is also drawn to songs because of lyrics in general. The person isn't what I would call someone who is heavily into music the way I am.
It's also notable that while the individual has taste that I enjoy it is a very accessible music this person usually likes. I say all this to try to paint a picture of the listener.
She confided in me that the musical explosion in Setting Sun brought her to tears.
Too bad so sadlecherouslittlestump wrote:Them being cagey on who wrote WFS is major suss and to be honest is making me think Watt (and other co writers?) has a large hand in writing this album. Honestly, it's lessening my enjoyment of the album
The stage-dive into what looks like about twenty people felt a bit over the top, not to mention dangerous to all concerned.Kevin Davis wrote:This video is quite a rideBirds in Hell wrote:Hmm, I have my doubts...Kevin Davis wrote:Maybe we're going to find out that what's different about this album is that Watt actually wrote the whole thing.
Is there a visualizer? that's the only way I am consuming music going forwardBirds in Hell wrote:The stage-dive into what looks like about twenty people felt a bit over the top, not to mention dangerous to all concerned.Kevin Davis wrote:This video is quite a rideBirds in Hell wrote:Hmm, I have my doubts...Kevin Davis wrote:Maybe we're going to find out that what's different about this album is that Watt actually wrote the whole thing.
I think a lot of people are taking things personally and aren't able to be neutral as a result. I love DM and have nothing against Ed. But at some point, DM is going to be included in your pj album rankings. So, before you put DM above Yield (or whatever), don't you care who wrote WFS and some of the other brightest parts of DM? To be honest, because of the collaborations, I'm in the process of trying to figure out whether I'll ever include DM in my pj rankings. and part of that process is figurin out exactly how much Watt contributed. I considered maybe O'Brien contributed a little here and there back in the day, too. But on sirius, stone said WFS is 'as much of a collaboration as we've ever done.' So whatever O'Brien did was not the same as what Watt did. As things stand, I think DM would be Gigaton 2.0 without Watt and I love Gigaton but it's not as good as DM.Strat wrote:Unless you dislike Ed and are disgusted by the idea of pursued collaborates. Perfect thing to jump on for validation!Ms Harmless wrote:lots of people overthinking this, there's no reason Ed would lie
Much love
I'm really happy with the Pearl Jam album but that Watt song is garbage, can we have a remix of that?tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t think Spenno is out of bounds here. I admit I’m liking the album more and more, and could see 5-6 of these songs sticking around in my brain as catalog highlights, which is so surprising and so great. But I’m simultaneously identifying a lot of aspects that feel like retreads, and this album basically feels like the album Lightning Bolt wanted to me.
The execution is obviously WAY better, and I already like it more than Gigaton. But there is a bit of disappointment in what appears to be a gradual by the band of acceptance of certain formulas, and a reliance on outside help to generate song ideas.
Also, I only listened to the two new songs on Stern but Ed sounded rough. Also did Stone play the SoF riff a bit differently? I couldn’t play shit at 6am, but I think it probably speaks somewhat to the way these songs were made and the way they operate: generate ideas quickly, cut them while the idea is hot, then scramble to remember how to play it before you broadcast live on a nationally broadcast show.
They’re not so young anymore; neither am I. My knees hurt all the time.
The end.
Moreover, it has been expressed several times in this thread and elsewhere something along the lines of 'I'm still in shock DM is so good given how old they are and how long they've been at it, and the lesser quality of their recent previous releases!!' etc. And 'I can't believe I'm saying this, but is DM better than Yield/Vitalogy?' etc etc. And 'Setting Sun is the best closer they've ever had!' etc.FlatSideofaDog wrote:I think a lot of people are taking things personally and aren't able to be neutral as a result. I love DM and have nothing against Ed. But at some point, DM is going to be included in your pj album rankings. So, before you put DM above Yield (or whatever), don't you care who wrote WFS and some of the other brightest parts of DM? To be honest, because of the collaborations, I'm in the process of trying to figure out whether I'll ever include DM in my pj rankings. and part of that process is figurin out exactly how much Watt contributed. I considered maybe O'Brien contributed a little here and there back in the day, too. But on sirius, stone said WFS is 'as much of a collaboration as we've ever done.' So whatever O'Brien did was not the same as what Watt did. As things stand, I think DM would be Gigaton 2.0 without Watt and I love Gigaton but it's not as good as DM.Strat wrote:Unless you dislike Ed and are disgusted by the idea of pursued collaborates. Perfect thing to jump on for validation!Ms Harmless wrote:lots of people overthinking this, there's no reason Ed would lie
Much love
No, this doesn't bother me in the slightest. Look at the result, and the performances and the energy, and the feel. This sounds like a collaboration, and produced exceptional results. Even if the genesis of what became Waiting for Stevie came out of a riff idea together they turned it into a triumph.FlatSideofaDog wrote:I think a lot of people are taking things personally and aren't able to be neutral as a result. I love DM and have nothing against Ed. But at some point, DM is going to be included in your pj album rankings. So, before you put DM above Yield (or whatever), don't you care who wrote WFS and some of the other brightest parts of DM? To be honest, because of the collaborations, I'm in the process of trying to figure out whether I'll ever include DM in my pj rankings. and part of that process is figurin out exactly how much Watt contributed. I considered maybe O'Brien contributed a little here and there back in the day, too. But on sirius, stone said WFS is 'as much of a collaboration as we've ever done.' So whatever O'Brien did was not the same as what Watt did. As things stand, I think DM would be Gigaton 2.0 without Watt and I love Gigaton but it's not as good as DM.Strat wrote:Unless you dislike Ed and are disgusted by the idea of pursued collaborates. Perfect thing to jump on for validation!Ms Harmless wrote:lots of people overthinking this, there's no reason Ed would lie
Much love