Red Mosquito

stip wrote:Music is a collaborative project and Watt was a hell of a muse.

DDWJMUVW wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:yeah guys, its kinda weird a few of you are still on the fence with Watt. He did great with the band, the new album is awesome, the band is really happy and ready to tour.

Happy times.

That about sums it up. Yet we have people nit picking the way Matt's snare sounds.

Guess what: you can actually HEAR all the instruments and all 5 guys (and presumably Wottman and Kling) seem to be at the top of their game with enthusiasm through the roof.

It's been a long time since we could say that...

tragabigzanda wrote:I don’t think Spenno is out of bounds here. I admit I’m liking the album more and more, and could see 5-6 of these songs sticking around in my brain as catalog highlights, which is so surprising and so great. But I’m simultaneously identifying a lot of aspects that feel like retreads, and this album basically feels like the album Lightning Bolt wanted to me.

The execution is obviously WAY better, and I already like it more than Gigaton. But there is a bit of disappointment in what appears to be a gradual by the band of acceptance of certain formulas, and a reliance on outside help to generate song ideas.

Also, I only listened to the two new songs on Stern but Ed sounded rough. Also did Stone play the SoF riff a bit differently? I couldn’t play shit at 6am, but I think it probably speaks somewhat to the way these songs were made and the way they operate: generate ideas quickly, cut them while the idea is hot, then scramble to remember how to play it before you broadcast live on a nationally broadcast show.

They’re not so young anymore; neither am I. My knees hurt all the time.

The end.

stip wrote:Also Gigaton rules. But this is better.

Ms Harmless wrote:also Pearl Jam have made doing covers and collabs a major part of their "thing" their entire career, and they've always worked with their friends first and foremost, it's hard to argue we couldn't have possibly seen this coming

tragabigzanda wrote:You guys are arguing with nobody. Literally no one is refuting anything you are typing.

tragabigzanda wrote:On the contrary, I think we’re just assessing the situation and coming to terms with the reality that for Pearl Jam to make a great album again, they had to bring in some outside collaborators.

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:On the contrary, I think we’re just assessing the situation and coming to terms with the reality that for Pearl Jam to make a great album again, they had to bring in some outside collaborators.

I mean, again, watt and klinghoffer apparently had a minor part in like two songs.

It's not like watt wrote every song and every part. I think wha this shows instead is that Pearl jam - with the right people pushing them - can make a great album, particularly if they actually get in a goddamn room and write together. That is the biggest piece here

Also I think the past few records were less than great and downright not good due to demo completion BS and probably raising families

tragabigzanda wrote:On the contrary, I think we’re just assessing the situation and coming to terms with the reality that for Pearl Jam to make a great album again, they had to bring in some outside collaborators.

RockPusher wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:also Pearl Jam have made doing covers and collabs a major part of their "thing" their entire career, and they've always worked with their friends first and foremost, it's hard to argue we couldn't have possibly seen this coming

You mentioning the word "friends" reminded me- they've known Watt for awhile. He has their trust and they have his. That is a big part of why this worked when, let's be honest, many thought it wouldn't.

lecherouslittlestump wrote:Them being cagey on who wrote WFS is major suss and to be honest is making me think Watt (and other co writers?) has a large hand in writing this album. Honestly, it's lessening my enjoyment of the album

Kevin Davis wrote:Questioning the provenance of a song that has six different writers on it is a perfectly natural level of interest to take in a band that you like. Most Beatles songs are credited to Lennon/McCartney; volumes have been written analyzing and questioning how that partnership worked, and who did what.

Pearl Jam have periodically had minor credits to non-band members (or satellite band members) on original songs (i.e. “Smile,” “Love Boat Captain”). It’s no big deal. But it’s interesting to think about how it went.

Kevin Davis wrote:Questioning the provenance of a song that has six different writers on it is a perfectly natural level of interest to take in a band that you like. Most Beatles songs are credited to Lennon/McCartney; volumes have been written analyzing and questioning how that partnership worked, and who did what.

Pearl Jam have periodically had minor credits to non-band members (or satellite band members) on original songs (i.e. “Smile,” “Love Boat Captain”). It’s no big deal. But it’s interesting to think about how it went.