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Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:10 am
by surfndestroy
spike wrote:Welp, looks like all the usual middle aged white guys have weighed in.
Considering that's one of the groups that is supposed to be part of the problem you should find it encouraging that they are engaging in the conversation.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:13 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
surfndestroy wrote:spike wrote:Welp, looks like all the usual middle aged white guys have weighed in.
Considering that's one of the groups that is supposed to be part of the problem you should find it encouraging that they are engaging in the conversation.

Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:30 am
by verb_to_trust
The top 5 racist rmers are the five that infantilize black people the most. I don't even have to list them. You know who they are.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:32 am
by spike
list them you coward
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:37 am
by BurtReynolds
Please don't call me middle aged.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 16, 2021 12:38 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
BurtReynolds wrote:Please don't call me middle aged.
if the dockers fit...
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Tue November 16, 2021 9:14 pm
by Bi_3
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Tue November 16, 2021 10:59 pm
by wease
Sounds about right
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Tue November 30, 2021 2:40 pm
by Bi_3
World Socialist WS utterly destroys the nonsense “1619” lie:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/1 ... i-n25.html
The New York Times’ Jake Silverstein concocts “a new origin story” for the 1619 Project
Tom Mackaman
24 November 2021
On November 9, the New York Times published a new defense of the 1619 Project by Jake Silverstein, editor-in-chief of the New York Times Magazine (“The 1619 Project and the Long Battle Over U.S. History”). Silverstein’s purpose was to prepare public opinion for the release of a book version of the project titled The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story, which was released on November 16. The original magazine edition, masterminded by Times staff writer Nikole Hannah-Jones, suffered devastating criticism after its release in August 2019—criticism that began with the WSWS.
Silverstein has staked his reputation on the 1619 Project. This has gone badly for him. His name will forever be associated with the secretive manner through which the project invented its false and error-ridden historical interpretation, as well as the orchestration of the cover-up that has followed.
Specifically, Silverstein bears responsibility for the exclusion of leading scholars of American history—who would have objected to the 1619 Project’s central historical claims—and the intentional disregarding of objections made by the project’s own handpicked “fact-checkers.” Silverstein penned the devious reply to leading historians who pointed to the project’s errors. He then organized surreptitious changes to the already published 1619 Project, and, when exposed, claimed that it had all been a matter of word choice.
Silverstein’s 8,250-word essay is just the latest in this long line of underhanded journalism and bogus history. Once again, he fails to deal with any of the substantive historical criticism of the 1619 Project—in relationship to the origins of slavery, the nature of the American Revolution, the emergence of capitalism and the interracial character of past struggles for equality.
Instead of addressing any of this, and in keeping with the modus operandi of the 1619 Project, Silverstein’s essay piles new layers of falsification on old. If the original 1619 Project falsified American history, Silverstein’s latest essay falsifies the history of American history-writing—and it openly embraces a historical method that privileges “narrative” over “actual fact.”
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Too long to post the whole article, but worth a read if you still think 1619 has academic merit.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Tue December 14, 2021 7:29 am
by simple schoolboy
The private sector equivalent of the Department of Anti-racism.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 4:35 am
by simple schoolboy
Didn't a ton of tribes with actual income restrict tribal membership during this timeframe (if not earlier?). Maybe by making it more common to have verified tribal ancestry without making the blood quantum cut, it opened up the Native identity to people that aren't tribal members.
This is me spitballing at what is probably close to dead last of reasons why more people are self IDing as Native, if this is to be believed. Senator Warren was a trendsetter!
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 12:16 pm
by elliseamos
People bubble things incorrectly all the time.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 3:22 pm
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:People bubble things incorrectly all the time.
Who are we to question the bubble's lived experience?
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 4:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
Rachel Dolezal is a martyr.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 1:46 pm
by B
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 2:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
Is it called democracy?
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 3:02 pm
by elliseamos
BurtReynolds wrote:Is it called democracy?
But that requires equitable representation, so that can't possibly be what exists in Mississippi.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 3:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
Yeah I'm sure a bankrupt "theory" like CRT would be ok if Congress was 38% black instead of 29%.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 3:08 pm
by elliseamos
I can't imagine how the conversation changes. It's so hard to know.
Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Sat January 22, 2022 3:32 pm
by Bammer
Did a bunch of posts in this thread just get deleted?