NHL Thread

[warehouse]

he'll be awesome w/ giroux, but 5 years is a long time and thats a fairly decent sized cap hit

[elliseamos]

Flyers sign Lecavalier, 5 years, $22.5m., also includes a full no movement clause.

good for him. maybe being in a new place will bring his game of a few years ago back.

you mean the 65-70 points a season he's averaged for like the past 4 or 5?

Sounds good to me

i was thinking of those point totals, but he hasn't had seasons in that range in 3 years.

i've always like VL, so i wish him well... despite his current choice of sweater.

[sportsfreakpete6]

he'll be awesome w/ giroux, but 5 years is a long time and thats a fairly decent sized cap hit

I'm fine with the cap hit but it may be one year too many, although he had 6 years left on his bolts deal I think. But that's a small price to pay to win the best available player in the game

[philpritchard]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

[MattA75]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

yeah, this pretty much

[elliseamos]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

yeah, this pretty much

guys, timmy time is going to work out fine. he's not a product of his former team's defensive system, honest. plus, he's a great quote-machine, so the press will love him.

[shinkdew]

Somehow Ovechkin was named a First Team All Star at RW, and a Second Team All Star at LW. WTF?

[warehouse]

Somehow Ovechkin was named a First Team All Star at RW, and a Second Team All Star at LW. WTF?

didnt he win mvp? they just give this guy awards for no reason

[shinkdew]

Somehow Ovechkin was named a First Team All Star at RW, and a Second Team All Star at LW. WTF?

didnt he win mvp? they just give this guy awards for no reason

The best part is they sent out an email telling the voters that Ovechkin was a RW (I guess he changed from LW). I think it's pretty clear the media has given up their right to vote for awards.

[sportsfreakpete6]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

haha this is pretty true...however, I don't think Homer will have much impact on whether or not Lecavalier will be s strong performer or not

[sportsfreakpete6]

I don't know if it's simply because we've never had a successful goalie since Hexy, but I'm not worried at all about the goaltending situation...I just assume it's going to be bad and we some how deal with and still make the playoffs

[@SkitchP]

Somehow Ovechkin was named a First Team All Star at RW, and a Second Team All Star at LW. WTF?

didnt he win mvp? they just give this guy awards for no reason

The best part is they sent out an email telling the voters that Ovechkin was a RW (I guess he changed from LW). I think it's pretty clear the media has given up their right to vote for awards.

Like the year Pavel Bure was rookie of the year but not on the all rookie team.

[philpritchard]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

haha this is pretty true...however, I don't think Homer will have much impact on whether or not Lecavalier will be s strong performer or not

It's always a bit unfair to analyze moves in hindsight, but that's really the only way to evaluate a GM. It's a GM's job to anticipate what a player will be able to contribute to the team going forward, so when a player doesn't live up to expectations you kind of have to pin that on whoever was responsible for bringing that player to the team.

[sportsfreakpete6]

It seems like every time Holmgren feels like he's made a mistake, he finds a way out of it and uses the money he saved to make another mistake. I want to see Lecavalier do well, but Holmgren's track record makes me think he's about to crash and burn in Philly.

Also, they still only have one goalie under contract, and it's still Steve Mason.

haha this is pretty true...however, I don't think Homer will have much impact on whether or not Lecavalier will be s strong performer or not

It's always a bit unfair to analyze moves in hindsight, but that's really the only way to evaluate a GM. It's a GM's job to anticipate what a player will be able to contribute to the team going forward, so when a player doesn't live up to expectations you kind of have to pin that on whoever was responsible for bringing that player to the team.

completely agreed...but I don't think poor play of someone like Bryzgalov or Briere of the past two years really speaks a lot to what Vinny will be able to do...basically what I'm saying is I'm not going to try to say that those cases are pointing to a probable disappointment of Lecavalier's play. I don't want to try to say: "These past player sucked after this amount of time on the team and they were brought in by the same GM so based on that I think it's more likely this signing too will end up poorly."

Do I think Bryz was evaluated poorly by the Flyers? Hell yeah...but I think a lot of onus is still on the player to perform to the expectations of management.

Hindsight performance of players brought in my a GM doesn't necessarily show how much success the future player will have...these conversations wouldn't be happening if he went to Red Wings/Hawks/Bruins

[Peeps]

i am sooo glad duper signed...takes the sting from letang signing away a bit

[philpritchard]

Do I think Bryz was evaluated poorly by the Flyers? Hell yeah...but I think a lot of onus is still on the player to perform to the expectations of management.

That depends how realistic they are. In Bryzgalov's case, the Flyers' expectations were way too high, but he failed to meet even the most reasonable expectations. Both are to blame for the situation.

[elliseamos]

Hindsight performance of players brought in my a GM doesn't necessarily show how much success the future player will have...

what about trading away richards & carter and them winning the cup? not to mention adding to that by overpaying bryz and handing columbus the top goalie in the league? owe, and wouldn't you rather have JVR over the next 5 seasons than VL? i would.

these conversations wouldn't be happening if he went to Red Wings/Hawks/Bruins

you're right, b/c those three teams have made moves that won them each a stanley cup. lolgren has worked hard for every critic he has.

[Peeps]

The Washington Capitals, who traded for Mike Ribeiro a year ago, are going to let him walk via free agency. The 33-year-old centre's wife, Tamara, is none too pleased about the situation. "Nothing like being uprooted from your home for a year for absolutely no apparent reason," she tweeted, along with the hashtag #pissedbeyondbelief. Tamara, who goes by the Twitter handle @Angeltw3, has three children with Mike. Ribeiro is coming off a five-year, $25-million contract and was seeking a five-year extension from the Capitals who were unwilling to meet his demands, according to RDS. He scored 13 goals and had 36 assists in 48 games for the Caps last season.

if i was an athlete my wife would sign a contract that she will never bring up anything to do with contract negotiations on social media at all

[surfndestroy]

The Washington Capitals, who traded for Mike Ribeiro a year ago, are going to let him walk via free agency. The 33-year-old centre's wife, Tamara, is none too pleased about the situation. "Nothing like being uprooted from your home for a year for absolutely no apparent reason," she tweeted, along with the hashtag #pissedbeyondbelief. Tamara, who goes by the Twitter handle @Angeltw3, has three children with Mike. Ribeiro is coming off a five-year, $25-million contract and was seeking a five-year extension from the Capitals who were unwilling to meet his demands, according to RDS. He scored 13 goals and had 36 assists in 48 games for the Caps last season.

if i was an athlete my wife would sign a contract that she will never bring up anything to do with contract negotiations on social media at all

Honey, there were five million reasons. Now go back to your twelve dollar eggs.

[MattA75]

The Washington Capitals, who traded for Mike Ribeiro a year ago, are going to let him walk via free agency. The 33-year-old centre's wife, Tamara, is none too pleased about the situation. "Nothing like being uprooted from your home for a year for absolutely no apparent reason," she tweeted, along with the hashtag #pissedbeyondbelief. Tamara, who goes by the Twitter handle @Angeltw3, has three children with Mike. Ribeiro is coming off a five-year, $25-million contract and was seeking a five-year extension from the Capitals who were unwilling to meet his demands, according to RDS. He scored 13 goals and had 36 assists in 48 games for the Caps last season.

if i was an athlete my wife would sign a contract that she will never bring up anything to do with contract negotiations on social media at all

I'm just glad one of the biggest bitches in the league married one of his own kind