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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 9:55 pm
by surfndestroy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:"Other shit kills people too, why should covid get special treatment?"
I owed a duty of care (as legislated by gov't) up and to the point the vaccine was available to all.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 9:56 pm
by surfndestroy
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 9:58 pm
by surfndestroy
dad wrote:my wife just text me saying she had one of her employees sitting with her in her office today--they were both masked. her employee has a daughter who's been sick since Monday, and she's still been sent to school. today, the daughter tested pos for covid.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the sheer stupidity in not only sending your sick kid to school for four fucking days, and then hanging out in close quarters with other people knowing you've got a sick kid.

especially, when you work in healthcare. on top of that, you work for the director of infectious diseases (my wife) at the hospital.

i mean, godddamnit. and i really don't care that they were masked. you could be in an office and touch a million things.

note: my wife never wanted to hire this person from the start, but her boss did the hiring.
I can understand the frustration. Does the employer provide unlimited and paid days to care for the possibly Covid affected people in their care? If not, I can understand why someone sends their child to school and comes into work.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:12 pm
by Green Habit
Bi_3 wrote:Someone in the senate must be asymptotic but highly contagious
My bet's on Ted Cruz.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:26 pm
by B
Green Habit wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Someone in the senate must be asymptotic but highly contagious
My bet's on Ted Cruz.
I'm sure he also has Herpes.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:27 pm
by spike
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:31 pm
by dad
surfndestroy wrote:
dad wrote:my wife just text me saying she had one of her employees sitting with her in her office today--they were both masked. her employee has a daughter who's been sick since Monday, and she's still been sent to school. today, the daughter tested pos for covid.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the sheer stupidity in not only sending your sick kid to school for four fucking days, and then hanging out in close quarters with other people knowing you've got a sick kid.

especially, when you work in healthcare. on top of that, you work for the director of infectious diseases (my wife) at the hospital.

i mean, godddamnit. and i really don't care that they were masked. you could be in an office and touch a million things.

note: my wife never wanted to hire this person from the start, but her boss did the hiring.
I can understand the frustration. Does the employer provide unlimited and paid days to care for the possibly Covid affected people in their care? If not, I can understand why someone sends their child to school and comes into work.
a little more context…

yes, they do get paid time off. Unlimited? Probably not, but this person does no bedside care, and could essentially wfh. Also, she can bring her daughter to the hospital for a free test any time—why wait four days after your kid has already said they don’t feel well?

an underlying problem for this particular person is she’s been skating on thin ice for a long time by cutting out early, and generally leaving my wife to pickup things that would otherwise be delegated to her. there’s been a theme of a lack of consideration since the beginning of her employment there, and this is an extension of it.

idk, a little consideration goes a long way, even in a pandemic. I don’t care if you don’t believe in covid, or getting vaccinated. I don’t care if you can’t breathe through your mask. Wearing one, and maintaining basic hygiene is considerate enough for me. If you die, that just means there’s more oatmeal for me.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:36 pm
by spike
There’s no protocol in place for this employee to report having been exposed? I thought that was basically standard now. Or did she just lie?

That would come down to the bigger problem our country has around limited sick time.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 10:57 pm
by Stickman

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 11:16 pm
by surfndestroy
Is the quarantine warranted would be my first question?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 11:19 pm
by spike
surfndestroy wrote:
Is the quarantine warranted would be my first question?
Yeah, vaccination rate is probably low 20 percent in that state.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Thu August 19, 2021 11:26 pm
by 4/5
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.
In the U.S.? Besides those under 12 who is unable to be vaccinated?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:04 am
by Peeps
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.
In the U.S.? Besides those under 12 who is unable to be vaccinated?
Mostly just those with underlying conditions

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:06 am
by surfndestroy
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.
In the U.S.? Besides those under 12 who is unable to be vaccinated?
I think a Trumpian usage of huge was used. Could be five people but it's a huge amount regardless of reality.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:12 am
by Bammer
surfndestroy wrote:
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.
In the U.S.? Besides those under 12 who is unable to be vaccinated?
I think a Trumpian usage of huge was used. Could be five people but it's a huge amount regardless of reality.
*yuge

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:18 am
by Rangi Guy
So apparently our latest outbreak has made it down my way (Still unconfirmed at this stage), and my stepsons are freaking out now. When we heard that we were going into lockdown they took off to spend their last few hours of freedom with thier mates and then during the conversation yesterday one of them said 'Oh, they were all sick' and apparently one of them has had to go and have a test done. Bunch of bloody Muppets!

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:19 am
by dad
spike wrote:There’s no protocol in place for this employee to report having been exposed? I thought that was basically standard now. Or did she just lie?

That would come down to the bigger problem our country has around limited sick time.
She only had her daughter tested today, so I’m not sure.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:29 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Already lost one co worker in March to covid. Now another one, one of the few in our firm unvaccinated, is in the hospital and on oxygen for breathing problems.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:33 am
by spike
4/5 wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:Comparing the flu to covid is so tired.
Can you please explain this comment? I want to understand but can't based on the little you've said.
Covid is more contagious and spreads quicker. Severe illness is more likely and the mortality rate is higher. Also our immune systems are more naive towards covid, so we’re still being surprised by it (variants). Meaning…

… so yeah, you’re vaccinated and in a much safer place with it. But it’s starting to become apparent, unfortunately, that vaccinated can catch and spread the virus, and there’s a huge amount of the population still unable to be vaccinated, so the game’s changed. Getting vaccinated isn’t enough anymore - especially if you’re interested in normality again.
In the U.S.? Besides those under 12 who is unable to be vaccinated?
50 million kids under 12, plus 10k born each day without immunity. But fuck em.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 12:42 am
by dad
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Already lost one co worker in March to covid. Now another one, one of the few in our firm unvaccinated, is in the hospital and on oxygen for breathing problems.
sorry to hear.

stay safe.