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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 5:48 pm
by DDWJMUVW
guitar_davey wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:
96583UP wrote:gonna put this at like a 3.47 today

song's a little dry

just sayin'

i like the tempo though

I think I understand what you’re getting at by “dry” and I don’t necessarily disagree.

That said, I’m trying to assess it for what it is. Sometimes you just get a straight forward, simply structured (intro, verse, pre, chorus x 2, bridge, chorus, outro w solo) track that feels not complex but is still a really quality song.

Plenty of precedent here for this. To me, they nail most of the constituent parts, even if the structure is uncomplicated and routine.

I’m sure we will get weird, funky, odd time signatures etc elsewhere on the record.
If this wasn't Pearl Jam, I probably wouldn't really be into this song, but that's partly down to the fact that PJ was at the forefront of a movement of bombastic "alternative rock" bands that have been half-rate copied endlessly for the past thirty years and I can't stand those bands. If it was anybody else, it would be derivative of PJ anyway. But as it is, it *is* Pearl Jam and I'm loving it.
Fair. But that pre chorus would at least suck me in even if this was some obscure bar band. It’s sexxxxxy.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 5:49 pm
by Buby
spike wrote:
Buby wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:somebody made one with twice the intro but I can't remember who
And a cool vocal intro version, too.
I am invisible in here :lol:
https://vocaroo.com/1d8T6zh3RN5i
was this done with AI
No :lol:
The vocal intro comes from the instrumental version (side B on the Dark Matter single).

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 5:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
DDWJMUVW wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
DDWJMUVW wrote:
96583UP wrote:gonna put this at like a 3.47 today

song's a little dry

just sayin'

i like the tempo though

I think I understand what you’re getting at by “dry” and I don’t necessarily disagree.

That said, I’m trying to assess it for what it is. Sometimes you just get a straight forward, simply structured (intro, verse, pre, chorus x 2, bridge, chorus, outro w solo) track that feels not complex but is still a really quality song.

Plenty of precedent here for this. To me, they nail most of the constituent parts, even if the structure is uncomplicated and routine.

I’m sure we will get weird, funky, odd time signatures etc elsewhere on the record.
If this wasn't Pearl Jam, I probably wouldn't really be into this song, but that's partly down to the fact that PJ was at the forefront of a movement of bombastic "alternative rock" bands that have been half-rate copied endlessly for the past thirty years and I can't stand those bands. If it was anybody else, it would be derivative of PJ anyway. But as it is, it *is* Pearl Jam and I'm loving it.
Fair. But that pre chorus would at least suck me in even if this was some obscure bar band. It’s sexxxxxy.
tbf even if I thought "Pearl Jam rippoff" I'd still think it's a decent attempt

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 5:52 pm
by scrub12
tree_ wrote:Yes, they were legendarily great. And the band still sounds pretty great. But Ed sounds laughably bad now, in mine and my wife's opinions, with all due respect to yours.
The 12 hours we went without this were a good time. Guess you couldn’t hold out.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 5:58 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Hypnosomnia wrote:Well, this is the song with the Eddie snippet, two round instrumental intro and extended instrumental after the solo.

https://vocaroo.com/1iWISu79MC8p
Incredible. Thanks for creating that. :heartbeat:

What editing software did you use?

I’m still confused on where that opening vocal melody of Ed came from.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:01 pm
by 96583UP
DDWJMUVW wrote:
96583UP wrote:gonna put this at like a 3.47 today

song's a little dry

just sayin'

i like the tempo though

I think I understand what you’re getting at by “dry” and I don’t necessarily disagree.

That said, I’m trying to assess it for what it is. Sometimes you just get a straight forward, simply structured (intro, verse, pre, chorus x 2, bridge, chorus, outro w solo) track that feels not complex but is still a really quality song.

Plenty of precedent here for this. To me, they nail most of the constituent parts, even if the structure is uncomplicated and routine.

I’m sure we will get weird, funky, odd time signatures etc elsewhere on the record.
:nice:

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:Yes, they were legendarily great. And the band still sounds pretty great. But Ed sounds laughably bad now, in mine and my wife's opinions, with all due respect to yours.
The 12 hours we went without this were a good time. Guess you couldn’t hold out.
he needs a break, maybe another 12, at least enough time to recruit a neighbour

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:06 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:Yes, they were legendarily great. And the band still sounds pretty great. But Ed sounds laughably bad now, in mine and my wife's opinions, with all due respect to yours.
The 12 hours we went without this were a good time. Guess you couldn’t hold out.
he needs a break, maybe another 12, at least enough time to recruit a neighbour
I just played it for my coworker down the hall and they also thought the vocals were ridiculously bad but the music was really cool

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:12 pm
by oneway23
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:Yes, they were legendarily great. And the band still sounds pretty great. But Ed sounds laughably bad now, in mine and my wife's opinions, with all due respect to yours.
The 12 hours we went without this were a good time. Guess you couldn’t hold out.
he needs a break, maybe another 12, at least enough time to recruit a neighbour
I just played it for my coworker down the hall and they also thought the vocals were ridiculously bad but the music was really cool
Have to say, I think it's profoundly wonderful that your company hires employees who happen to be deaf.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
tree_ wrote:Yes, they were legendarily great. And the band still sounds pretty great. But Ed sounds laughably bad now, in mine and my wife's opinions, with all due respect to yours.
The 12 hours we went without this were a good time. Guess you couldn’t hold out.
he needs a break, maybe another 12, at least enough time to recruit a neighbour
I just played it for my coworker down the hall and they also thought the vocals were ridiculously bad but the music was really cool
you had to walk all the way down the hall to feel that sweet sweet vindication?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:15 pm
by RockPusher
Hey tree_, why do you need your opinion validated so badly?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:16 pm
by RockPusher
Buby wrote:
spike wrote:
Buby wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:somebody made one with twice the intro but I can't remember who
And a cool vocal intro version, too.
I am invisible in here :lol:
https://vocaroo.com/1d8T6zh3RN5i
was this done with AI
No :lol:
The vocal intro comes from the instrumental version (side B on the Dark Matter single).
So where did you find that, or do you have to kill me if you tell me?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:17 pm
by Teeeeeekay
Comes with the purchase of the 7” and/or digital version.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:18 pm
by RockPusher
Teeeeeekay wrote:Comes with the purchase of the 7” and/or digital version.
Cool- is the song length different?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:21 pm
by stip
RockPusher wrote:Hey tree_, why do you need your opinion validated so badly?
As a public service, there is never a need to respond to other people's posts. If you think someone is trolling you, just ignore them. Almost everyone wins.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:22 pm
by Buby
RockPusher wrote:
Teeeeeekay wrote:Comes with the purchase of the 7” and/or digital version.
Cool- is the song length different?
The only difference in length is the added intro.

3:31 Dark Matter
3:38 Dark Matter (Instrumental)

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:25 pm
by warehouse
"Hey Dave, do you have a second? I need you to listen to this song for me and tell me what you think of the singer. I'm arguing with people on the internet who like it"

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:27 pm
by tommy
Can someone post the link to the Wikipedia clip? Did anyone ever figure out if it's from this song?

I didn't listen to it many times, but in my memory it sounds similar to Dark Matter, but it's not a part of the actual song...

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:28 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Teeeeeekay wrote:Comes with the purchase of the 7” and/or digital version.
I purchase the digital version on iTunes and did not get a b-side :-?

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Thu February 15, 2024 6:30 pm
by Hypnos
tommy wrote:Can someone post the link to the Wikipedia clip? Did anyone ever figure out if it's from this song?

I didn't listen to it many times, but in my memory it sounds similar to Dark Matter, but it's not a part of the actual song...
Its the instrumental.