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Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 8:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:01 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:21 pm
by Sloppy Dupree
I don’t know if this is unpopular, but Riot Act is my favorite b-side era.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:26 pm
by VinylGuy
wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:28 pm
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:30 pm
by dimejinky99
Is gremmie.net still up?
It used to have all this stuff and a huge goldmine of all kinds of off cuts and alternative versions
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 9:34 pm
by dimejinky99
Apparently not. Just the logo.
Sad to see
https://gremmie.net/
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:05 pm
by igotworms
I'd never realised how different the LD version of U was from the original. Ed sounds very different. And LD version has got to be Matt drumming - not as good as Jack's effort sadly.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:16 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:34 pm
by wease
epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:38 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:46 pm
by wease
epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 10:47 pm
by Monkey_Driven
wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 11:01 pm
by McParadigm
Wow so that’s how it happened
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 11:14 pm
by dimejinky99
wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
Absolute poppycock
Fatal and strangest tribe are right there
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 11:23 pm
by Farmer John
So is that Matt on the Lost Dogs version of "U" or not? Because I've pretty much based my entire personality on Jack's performance on the original b-side version being far superior to Matt's performance on the Lost Dogs version. And now you're telling me that not only are they both Jack, but they're the exact same performance? Aye yai yai!
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Fri January 24, 2025 11:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 12:40 am
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:epilogue wrote:wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.
Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either.
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.
Absolute poppycock
Fatal and strangest tribe are right there
How can you be wrong this many times in one day?
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 1:39 am
by Birds in Hell
Sad is OK but it's no Of the Earth.
Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS
Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 1:48 am
by Monkey_Driven
Birds in Hell wrote:Sad is OK but it's no Of the Earth.
wut