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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 11:22 am
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:is that a gravestone?
Now you're talking. Remember. They could move him a few feet to the right and that stone wouldn't be in shot
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 12:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Why are we talking about this clunky movie when Rogue One is out?!
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 12:59 pm
by stip
this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 12:59 pm
by stip
I'll up my R1 post count when I see it again tomorrow
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 1:24 pm
by Anders
stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.
You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 1:37 pm
by dimejinky99
Really baffled by people comparing them.
It is just cos it's the new movie I guess.
Thexsamexwil happen when Han follows 8 (poor Han)
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 2:23 pm
by stip
Anders wrote:stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.
You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
that something moves fast doesnt make it lightweight, just like something moving slowly doesnt make it drag. its all in the execution. despite its pace tfa gives its characters real depth and the set pieces are all exciting (and usually serve as backdrops for character development)
its only been one viewing so i want to reserve the right to change my mind, but the first half of R1 felt like it was treading water. ostensibly world building i suppose, but none of it felt necessary. that movie shined in its battles and dragged outside of them. and almost none of that material added to the incredible third act.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 2:34 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:Anders wrote:stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.
You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
that something moves fast doesnt make it lightweight, just like something moving slowly doesnt make it drag. its all in the execution. despite its pace tfa gives its characters real depth and the set pieces are all exciting (and usually serve as backdrops for character development)
its only been one viewing so i want to reserve the right to change my mind, but the first half of R1 felt like it was treading water. ostensibly world building i suppose, but none of it felt necessary. that movie shined in its battles and dragged outside of them. and almost none of that material added to the incredible third act.
It does get better Stip on second viewing but it still drags up to that third act. The scene with Jyn and the hologram of her dad really lands in the second viewing but weirdly his death scene doesn't at all. Feels forced and unnecessary.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 2:38 pm
by stip
jyn's reaction to the hologram landed the first time. it was a powerful moment
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 3:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
It's the exact same story as ANH.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 3:23 pm
by stip
as opposed to a movie that exists to retcon a design flaw in a new hope?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 3:25 pm
by stip
the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 4:04 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
I really want the Vader vs. Smaug movie to happen
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 4:08 pm
by dimejinky99
There's some Vader v Aliens art out there. That'd be a cool crossover.
No way would Smaug beat Vader. Vaders pulled starships out of the sky in the comic.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 4:10 pm
by stip
E.H. Ruddock wrote:stip wrote:the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
I really want the Vader vs. Smaug movie to happen
is there any vader/smaug slashfic out there?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 4:16 pm
by dimejinky99
A quick google reveals a ton of match up threads on Reddit but no art.
Sauron and Smaug v Vader and sidious is intriguing
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 4:43 pm
by stip
Who does the internet think will win
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 24, 2016 8:50 pm
by @SkitchP
stip wrote:Who does the internet think will win
The fact this is even being discussed means we've all lost.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sun December 25, 2016 7:05 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Lightsaber > Dragon scales
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sun December 25, 2016 8:02 pm
by stip
That lightsaber isn't going to stop a flying river of fire