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Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:28 pm
by Ms Harmless
do you want to be in the fold? no one is stopping you Bammer
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:29 pm
by Ms Harmless
but I'm not compromising my ideals to let you in
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:30 pm
by Bi_3
Bi_3 wrote:knee tunes wrote:Bi_3 wrote:
At least in PA, the following is considered child abuse:
(3) Causing or substantially contributing to serious mental injury to a child through any act or failure to act or a series of such acts or failures to act.
Being that gender dysphoria is :
a sense of unease that a person may have because of a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity. This sense of unease or dissatisfaction may be so intense it can lead to depression and anxiety and have a harmful impact on daily life. , then this makes sense.
It seems that Virginia just wants to put that explicit act of abuse written into law. Not sure why it's "controversial" unless people don't understand that kids are suffering and this law would help them.
Rehabilitation and counseling for the parents/kids is also part of the legal process with regard to child abuse/child protective services. It's not just punishment. But calling abuse by its name is the first step.
Read up on Mao's revolution. This is weaponizing transition.
Some positive action here. The Virginia ACLU and leading Democrats in the state have come out against this ridiculous bill and it's the sponsor now says she won't bring it to session. Saner heads must prevail as society seeks to balance the protect of vulnerable youth with the role of parents.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:34 pm
by Bammer
Ms Harmless wrote:do you want to be in the fold? no one is stopping you Bammer
If I question anything you say, even there vs. their, I’m out though.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:39 pm
by Ms Harmless
Bammer wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:do you want to be in the fold? no one is stopping you Bammer
If I question anything you say, even there vs. their, I’m out though.
questioning how to treat those with they/them pronouns? no, I'm always happy to have that conversation
questioning the validity of my answers because you want to be allowed to find "bowing" to the needs of nonbinary people a trivial non-issue? yes, that's when I close the door
people I love are nonbinary; you can dismiss their pronouns (and thus their identities) all you want, but I'm not gonna say it's fine
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:42 pm
by Ms Harmless
I had that conversation with you, and you got your answers; if you want different answers then go somewhere else, it's not my responsibility
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
I made light of the difference between "their" and "there" because you're making light of pronouns; you know what was meant in that email, people make typos, it's not a big deal and it's bizarre that you'd private message me further antagonism over a conversation about grammar
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:49 pm
by Bammer
Unless I have completely misunderstood you, you believe that pointing out a legitimate spelling error is a bigoted thing to do. That’s disingenuous.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:51 pm
by Bammer
Ms Harmless wrote:I made light of the difference between "their" and "there" because you're making light of pronouns; you know what was meant in that email, people make typos, it's not a big deal and it's bizarre that you'd private message me further antagonism over a conversation about grammar
Mods?
I did not PM her. This is patently false.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
sorry Bammer, Bi_3 did, I'm having a hard time keeping up
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:57 pm
by Bammer
Calling out a PM, regardless of who sent it, is a cool and good thing to do publicly on the board.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:57 pm
by Mickey
Bi_3 is just trying to stop Maoism, you can't stop Maoism without breaking a few (former) eggs.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:58 pm
by Ms Harmless
Bammer wrote:Unless I have completely misunderstood you, you believe that pointing out a legitimate spelling error is a bigoted thing to do. That’s disingenuous.
I didn't call you a bigot, I told you that "pointing out a typo" was making light of someone's pronouns in this context; it's pointless and only serves to amuse you; again, it didn't cause me to call you a bigot, but it is a thing that bigots frequently do, so it's a case of "if the shoe fits"
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 7:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
Mickey wrote:Bi_3 is just trying to stop Maoism, you can't stop Maoism without breaking a few (former) eggs.
OK look, this did me make me laugh
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:03 pm
by Bammer
Ms Harmless wrote:I read it correctly Bammer; rather than "correct" them, you can assume they weren't wrong and politely ask for clarification, then do as they ask
also, "there" is pronounced exactly the same as "their"
what will you do when you come up against neopronouns? "fae / faer", "ze / hir", even "it / its"? my genderfluid partner goes by those last pair sometimes, and they deserve to have that respected
Someone spells a word wrong and I am to assume they didn’t spell it wrong. Wow.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:04 pm
by Bammer
Next I will be told 2 + 2 = 5 and I have to do what I’m told by believing it?
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:06 pm
by Ms Harmless
tell me, in a simple statement, what it is that you don't want to believe
is it just "they/them/there" is probably a typo, or is there something else?
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:08 pm
by Ms Harmless
and no, nobody is asking you to believe incorrect elementary math; that isn't the logical next step of doing what I'm asking
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:12 pm
by Bi_3
Mickey wrote:Bi_3 is just trying to stop Maoism, you can't stop Maoism without breaking a few (former) eggs.
I explicitly grant Ms Harmless permission to post a screenshot of the PM I sent on October 14, 2022 at 6:56 pm.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun October 16, 2022 8:22 pm
by Ms Harmless
Bi_3 wrote:Mickey wrote:Bi_3 is just trying to stop Maoism, you can't stop Maoism without breaking a few (former) eggs.
I explicitly grant Ms Harmless permission to post a screenshot of the PM I sent on October 14, 2022 at 6:56 pm.
I explicitly deleted it, just as I do whenever someone is too chicken shit to confront me in public