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Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 1:50 am
by WtOB?
don't be silly spenno.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:02 am
by WtOB?
igotworms wrote:I'd never realised how different the LD version of U was from the original. Ed sounds very different. And LD version has got to be Matt drumming - not as good as Jack's effort sadly.
hahah they are the EXACT same drum take by the EXACT same drummer. you have matt-derangement syndrome, bro.
the only difference in the instrumental is the lost dogs version is slightly slower.
this is both versions panned left and right, with the lost dogs version sped up. i call it "pearl jam - youse".

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:21 am
by WtOB?
instrumentals panned next to each other:


and vocals panned next to each other:

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:22 am
by stip
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Sad is OK but it's no Of the Earth.
wut
I mean he’s right. They are, in fact, different songs.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 4:39 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Why are you wasting time and effort arguing about U/You? Possibly the worst song in the catalog

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 6:31 am
by dimejinky99
wease wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.

Absolute poppycock

Fatal and strangest tribe are right there
How can you be wrong this many times in one day?

Your momma smoked 40 a day when she was pregnant with you.
Only explanation for it

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 7:21 am
by igotworms
Farmer John wrote:So is that Matt on the Lost Dogs version of "U" or not? Because I've pretty much based my entire personality on Jack's performance on the original b-side version being far superior to Matt's performance on the Lost Dogs version. And now you're telling me that not only are they both Jack, but they're the exact same performance? Aye yai yai!
I literally listened to them back to back on YouTube and the drumming sounded noticeably different but now I'm questioning my ears and sanity.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 7:27 am
by igotworms
OK listened to them again on YT and while the sound of the drums is quite different (remaster? different upload quality?) you're absolutely right - same drumming. Well well well.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 1:06 pm
by 96583UP
Josh K should have his license suspended

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 1:59 pm
by wease
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
epilogue wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
wease wrote:I don’t buy the notion the b-side U is different from the Lost Dogs version. I just listened to both back-to-back and other than the mastering, they sound exactly alike. I also don’t agree that Matt is on the Lost Dogs version and not the b-side. The drums are exactly the same. I actually don’t think Matt is on it at all. The fills sound much more like Jack fills than Matt fills and the whole groove of the tune swings more like Jack than Matt.
Lost Dogs version is the same B-side instrumental, but with a new vocal, and then remixed.
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve heard about the new vocal for LD before. And honestly, I wasn’t even listening to that part of it. I was more focused on the instrumentation.
the music is the same than in the single but the vocals and lyrics are different. The U single is about being in love while the LD is the breakup song.

Its pretty brilliant.
I’m gonna have to do this back-to-back thing again. I’ve never noticed this.
I talked about this ad nauseum when LD first came out. It didn't get much traction then either. :lol:
The only thing I remember talking about around that time was people thinking Dave A played on Hold On because the liner notes said it was recorded during the Vs sessions. It was obvious it was Krusen just by listening but some couldn’t accept the liner notes could be wrong.
We're talking about U/You, not Hold On!
Sad is the best song on LD and probably the best song they ever kept off an album.

Absolute poppycock

Fatal and strangest tribe are right there
How can you be wrong this many times in one day?

Your momma smoked 40 a day when she was pregnant with you.
Only explanation for it
She actually was a smoker when she was pregnant with me.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:01 pm
by wease
Farmer John wrote:So is that Matt on the Lost Dogs version of "U" or not? Because I've pretty much based my entire personality on Jack's performance on the original b-side version being far superior to Matt's performance on the Lost Dogs version. And now you're telling me that not only are they both Jack, but they're the exact same performance? Aye yai yai!
Exact same. And I say it’s Jack.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:02 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why are you wasting time and effort arguing about U/You? Possibly the worst song in the catalog
We’ve covered this. NAIS is the worst song in the catalog.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:17 pm
by Farmer John
wease wrote:
Farmer John wrote:So is that Matt on the Lost Dogs version of "U" or not? Because I've pretty much based my entire personality on Jack's performance on the original b-side version being far superior to Matt's performance on the Lost Dogs version. And now you're telling me that not only are they both Jack, but they're the exact same performance? Aye yai yai!
Exact same. And I say it’s Jack.
Well, fuck me in the brain. They are indeed the same.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 2:28 pm
by Sloppy Dupree
The drumming on U I’ve always loved, the vocals not to much. Eddie seems sleepy on it.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 3:16 pm
by tommy
wease wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why are you wasting time and effort arguing about U/You? Possibly the worst song in the catalog
We’ve covered this. NAIS is the worst song in the catalog.
Somebody hold me back

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 3:46 pm
by wease
tommy wrote:
wease wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why are you wasting time and effort arguing about U/You? Possibly the worst song in the catalog
We’ve covered this. NAIS is the worst song in the catalog.
Somebody hold me back
Bring it

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 3:49 pm
by epilogue
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Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 3:54 pm
by VinylGuy
wease wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why are you wasting time and effort arguing about U/You? Possibly the worst song in the catalog
We’ve covered this. NAIS is the worst song in the catalog.
i mean, cmon...Future Days is on that catalogue.

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 3:58 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: UNPOPULAR PEARL JAM OPINIONS

Posted: Sat January 25, 2025 4:01 pm
by tommy
Amongst the Waves is not a song that warrants a strong opinion. Future Days is the worst Pearl Jam song - there's no question about it.