2015 All-Time Franchise Tournament: WHITE SOX WIN!

[Lament]

I saw some cartoon called We Bare Bears yesterday before I went to bed and I'm weirdly fascinated by it. Is this a show you watch, chud? It seems like it would be.

[Norah]

never heard of it

[Lament]

It's pretty good. It's about these three bears who live in human society.

[CopperTom]

Skitch, you have Spahn listed as your game one starter tomorrow, but he's not an option in whatif.

I meant Perry. I have always mixed those two guys up.

If you want him, you can have him.

[Norah]

It's pretty good. It's about these three bears who live in human society.

I enjoyed that.

[Lament]

Phillies vs. Cubs

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Cubs 8, Phillies 1
W - Maddux, L - McQuillan
HR - Williams, Sandberg, Delahanty

Cubs 11, Phillies 2
W - Ellsworth, L - Hamels
HR - Lieberthal, Cavarretta, Sosa, Williams, Sandberg

Braves vs. Expos/Nationals

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Expos/Nationals 6, Braves 1
W - Rogers, L - Glavine

Braves 9, Expos/Nationals 5
W - Maddux, L - Scherzer
HR - Duffy, Holmes 2, Hornsby, Lopez, Carter, Vidro

Marlins vs. Giants

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Giants 8, Marlins 7
W - Perry, L - Willis, S - Nen
HR - Hornsby, Sheffield

Giants 11, Marlins 1
W - Keefe, L - Fernandez
HR - Ott

Astros vs. Cardinals

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Cardinals 4, Astros 2
W - Chamberlain, L - Dotel, S - Sutter
HR - Wynn

Cardinals 14, Astros 4
W - Brecheen, L - Dierker
HR - Biggio, Castro, Hornsby, Musial

Diamondbacks vs. Dodgers

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Dodgers 10, Diamondbacks 6
W - Koufax, L - Webb
HR - Snider, Upton

Dodgers 7, Diamondbacks 2
W - Sutton, L - Haren
HR - Finley, Reiser, Beltre

Athletics vs. Blue Jays

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Athletics 4, Blue Jays 3
W - Grove, L - Clemens

Blue Jays 5, Athletics 4
W - Osuna, L - Doolittle, S - Ryan
HR - Bautista, Donaldson, Green, Tejada

White Sox vs. Twins

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Twins 7, White Sox 0
W - Blyleven, L - Lyons

White Sox 4, Twins 1
W - Cicotte, L - Viola

Rays vs. Tigers

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Tigers 26, Rays 1
W - Donovan, L - Arrojo

Tigers 7, Rays 1
W - Verlander, L - Price
HR - Cash, Pena

Brewers vs. Red Sox

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Red Sox 5, Brewers 4
W - Lowe, L - Sabathia, S - Gordon
HR - Cooper, Braun

Red Sox 7, Brewers 4
W - Martinez, L - Caldwell
HR - Williams, Yount, Braun

Mariners vs. Orioles

Game 1: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2: https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Orioles 3, Mariners 1
W - McNally, L - Iwakuma
HR - Griffey Jr.

Mariners 7, Orioles 1
W - Johnson, L - Dobson
HR - Griffey Jr., Rodriguez

STANDINGS

Spoiler: show

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Red Sox 28-16
White Sox 28-16
Athletics 27-17
Tigers 26-18
Blue Jays 25-19
Twins 21-23
Orioles 19-25
Mariners 17-27
Rays 16-28
Brewers 13-31

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Giants 30-14
Cardinals 28-16
Cubs 26-18
Astros 24-20
Dodgers 22-22
Braves 22-22
Expos/Nationals 19-25
Marlins 18-26
Diamondbacks 18-26
Phillies 13-31

[CopperTom]

The race is getting tight.

[The Argonaut]

FIVE HUNDRED!!!!!!!!! (.500) SUPER EXCITED. TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY.

[E.H. Ruddock]

stats updated

[philpritchard]

Today's Randy Johnson update: ERA down to 1.85, 11/12 quality starts, 8-0 record, 0.89 WHIP

[Lament]

The race is getting tight.

FIVE HUNDRED!!!!!!!!! (.500) SUPER EXCITED. TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY.

The Giants need an 8-2 finish to set a new RM whatif record for best regular season winning percentage (numbers' LCS team has the current record of .685).


It'd be kinda crazy if after all of this the NL Playoffs ended up as Giants-Dodgers and Cardinals-Cubs. The AL still looks like it could be any combination of the five teams within three games of each other, though the bigger story in the AL is probably the possibility that phil may make the playoffs for the very first time (I think he may be the only person to have been in every single tournament who hasn't yet).

[philpritchard]

It'd be kinda crazy if after all of this the NL Playoffs ended up as Giants-Dodgers and Cardinals-Cubs. The AL still looks like it could be any combination of the five teams within three games of each other, though the bigger story in the AL is probably the possibility that phil may make the playoffs for the very first time (I think he may be the only person to have been in every single tournament who hasn't yet).

I'm proud of the way I've run my Jays teams because there's only so much you can work with in a Franchise tournament, and I still think my Post-Strike team was amazing and would be better in a full season... but good god was I ever terrible in the last two draft tournaments.

[philpritchard]

I just went back to check, and it turns out I lost in seven games to Skitch, the eventual champion, and three of my four losses were by one run. It's too bad we can't check the boxscores, but that was a pretty intense first round.

I assume my big mistake was taking 2001 instead of 1995 Randy Johnson.

[CopperTom]

The race is getting tight.

FIVE HUNDRED!!!!!!!!! (.500) SUPER EXCITED. TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY.

The Giants need an 8-2 finish to set a new RM whatif record for best regular season winning percentage (numbers' LCS team has the current record of .685).


It'd be kinda crazy if after all of this the NL Playoffs ended up as Giants-Dodgers and Cardinals-Cubs. The AL still looks like it could be any combination of the five teams within three games of each other, though the bigger story in the AL is probably the possibility that phil may make the playoffs for the very first time (I think he may be the only person to have been in every single tournament who hasn't yet).

I assume ties will be broken on the field. No tiebreaker bullshit I hope.

[philpritchard]

I found this, though. Goddamnit Skitch!

So... did I really just lose Game 7 on a ninth inning collapse capped off by a walk-off error by Larry Walker?

[philpritchard]

I assume ties will be broken on the field. No tiebreaker bullshit I hope.

I should hope so.

[CopperTom]

I assume ties will be broken on the field. No tiebreaker bullshit I hope.

I should hope so.

I would assume that it's considered a regular season game like in reality. Therefore, rest would not reset yet. Lament, can you confirm?

[numbers]

I'm going to have to re-tool the Astros lineup to try and salvage this thing.

[Lament]

I assume ties will be broken on the field. No tiebreaker bullshit I hope.

I should hope so.

I would assume that it's considered a regular season game like in reality. Therefore, rest would not reset yet. Lament, can you confirm?

Yes. Seeding ties will be broken by tie-breakers, but when a playoff spot is in question, there is a play-in game (we had one in the LCS Tournament between chud and argo). Play-in games are indeed considered part of the regular season, and pitchers are subjected to the same rest rule/standards.


EDIT: This is from the LCS Tournament OP...

3. The top four teams in the standings at the end of the season will make the playoffs. Tie-breakers for the fourth spot will be settled via play-in game. These games are considered part of the regular season, so pitchers in them are subjected to regular season rest restrictions. Tie-breakers for the other spots will be based on head-to-head record. If the teams split their meetings, the tie will be broken by whoever had the better record against the highest seeded team overall (this will carry down in the standings until the tie is broken).

[CopperTom]

I assume ties will be broken on the field. No tiebreaker bullshit I hope.

I should hope so.

I would assume that it's considered a regular season game like in reality. Therefore, rest would not reset yet. Lament, can you confirm?

Yes. Seeding ties will be broken by tie-breakers, but when a playoff spot is in question, there is a play-in game (we had one in the LCS Tournament between chud and argo). Play-in games are indeed considered part of the regular season, and pitchers are subjected to the same rest rule/standards.


EDIT: This is from the LCS Tournament OP...

3. The top four teams in the standings at the end of the season will make the playoffs. Tie-breakers for the fourth spot will be settled via play-in game. These games are considered part of the regular season, so pitchers in them are subjected to regular season rest restrictions. Tie-breakers for the other spots will be based on head-to-head record. If the teams split their meetings, the tie will be broken by whoever had the better record against the highest seeded team overall (this will carry down in the standings until the tie is broken).

You might want to make a rule for a 3 way tie for the final playoff spot too.