Red Mosquito

bart wrote:

McParadigm wrote:More

what a dicey situation

No matter which way you cut it, this is going to take some tough diplomacy to resolve.

Simple Torture wrote:

bart wrote:

McParadigm wrote:More

what a dicey situation

No matter which way you cut it, this is going to take some tough diplomacy to resolve.

Glad they're no longer mincing words on this. Good on WaPo for carving out some space on their front page.

When you get down to the bones of it everyone involved in this should in any real sense be completely fucked right now.

Let’s not split hairs. Sadly we don’t live in the real world anymore.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Trump compared the [Saudi Arabia] situation to the allegations of sexual assault leveled against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing.

“I think we have to find out what happened first,” he said. “Here we go again with, you know, you’re guilty until proven innocent. I don’t like that. We just went through that with Justice Kavanaugh and he was innocent all the way as far as I’m concerned.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/guil ... -kavanaugh

Fair warning that I am kind of a bonehead, but this seems like an issue for the Saudis and Turks. Why should anyone else care? The handkerchief-clutching seems very confected. Middle East regime is brutal; in other news, dog bites man.

Why bother risking a strategic relationship with the Saudis by taking a hardline stance over this issue of all things?

Well the Saudis staged and funded 9/11 and trump and co have tons of business ties and yeah. Awkward

Turks have recordings because its customary for home country to bug the embassy

Salman is amateur hour with this one you gotta make this type of thing less obvious, why not just have someone drive into him with a car

and he didn't have a fall guy picked out ahead of time?

he just went for the 'pure power' dictator move

what a rook

he could use some pointers from U.S. President Putin

Birds in Hell wrote:Why bother risking a strategic relationship with the Saudis by taking a hardline stance over this issue of all things?

They’re counting on you, Birds.

But they’re bombing the shit out of Yemen and have caused the worst famine we’ve seen in a century..

dimejinky99 wrote:Well the Saudis staged and funded 9/11

That seems more like a conspiracy theory.

Birds in Hell wrote:Fair warning that I am kind of a bonehead, but this seems like an issue for the Saudis and Turks. Why should anyone else care? The handkerchief-clutching seems very confected. Middle East regime is brutal; in other news, dog bites man.

Why bother risking a strategic relationship with the Saudis by taking a hardline stance over this issue of all things?

Obviously we can't allow them killing journalists that don't agree with them (same with Russia etc).

Besides he had close ties to the US: "Khashoggi relocated to the United States in June 2017 and began writing for The Washington Post in September 2017, continuing thereafter. In the Post, he criticized the Saudi Arabian-led blockade against Qatar, Saudi Arabia's dispute with Lebanon, Saudi Arabia's diplomatic dispute with Canada, and the Kingdom's crackdown on dissent and media.

According to The Spectator, "With almost two million Twitter followers, he was the most famous political pundit in the Arab world and a regular guest on the major TV news networks in Britain and the United States."

Anders wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Well the Saudis staged and funded 9/11

That seems more like a conspiracy theory.

We probably do follow different news sources but the famine in Yemen is happening and lots of notable Brits are calling for Britain to stop selling weapons to SA as a result of it

You know I can't help but wonder if this could be the big foreign policy challenge/blunder that we've all hoped to avoid with this amateur-hour administration. This really is one of those instances where Trump may find himself alone on an island.

meatwad wrote:You know I can't help but wonder if this could be the big foreign policy challenge/blunder that we've all hoped to avoid with this amateur-hour administration. This really is one of those instances where Trump may find himself alone on an island.

Nope. He'll survive this because Clintons.

Anders wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Well the Saudis staged and funded 9/11

That seems more like a conspiracy theory.

Huh? There's plenty of evidence that the Saudis are funding ISIS and funded bin Laden for years before he turned on the Royal family.

There's enough evidence that 9/11 families are suing the kingdom.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 79236.html

Podesta to Hilldog

>> This entire effort should be done with a low profile,
>> avoiding the massive traditional military operations that are at best
>> temporary solutions. While this military/para-military operation is moving
>> forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence
>> assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia,
>> which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and
>> other radical Sunni groups in the region. This effort will be enhanced by
>> the stepped up commitment in the KRG. The Qataris and Saudis will be put
>> in a position of balancing policy between their ongoing competition to
>> dominate the Sunni world and the consequences of serious U.S. pressure. By
>> the same token, the threat of similar, realistic U.S. operations will serve
>> to assist moderate forces in Libya, Lebanon, and even Jordan, where
>> insurgents are increasingly fascinated by the ISIL success in Iraq.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774


The Saudis are the main propagators of Salafism and Wahhabism.

Fuck them.

'2black gets it

tragabigzanda wrote:Severed Hands

He's already cut up and half spread, left inside a whole where Trump began.

To be honest I've barely followed this Saudi story.

meatwad wrote:You know I can't help but wonder if this could be the big foreign policy challenge/blunder that we've all hoped to avoid with this amateur-hour administration. This really is one of those instances where Trump may find himself alone on an island.

And he’s tied to it personally and directly. He even said they’ve been a great help to him.

How?? Andxis he that blind he doesn’t see what all this means for him?