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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:05 pm
by VinylGuy
Birds in Hell wrote:Not to blow smoke up the guy, but trag's posts have been great during this album cycle.

No knock against stip but I'm never going to read his in-depth song reviews - it's just not my thing.

Much rather hear trag talk about drums.
Maybe you two Can like mm talk over the phone then ?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:10 pm
by Arthur Morgan
Anyone know how much the band paid Watt for DM? I have no idea and just curious

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:13 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Strat wrote:Ed rocking some Fender Deluxe or hot rods of sorts.
They look very much like the 50s tweed Deluxes and Twin set-up he's been using for years, usually two Deluxes either side with the Twin in the middle:

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However, they're not his old ones. To begin with, they're obviously new and covered in black tolex and he's also dropped the second Deluxe.

There's also a small badge in the bottom right corner of the Deluxe - interesting, it's in the exact same place as the "Tonemaster" badge on Fender's current digital amp range. That said, there is no Tonemaster version of the tweed Deluxe (or any tweed amp) in the current range.

A few possibilities:

1. Ed had Fender knock up a few new tweed Deluxe and Twin reissues for him but in black tolex for this tour (maybe doesn't want to bring the old ones on the road anymore).

2. Fender are bringing out some new Tonemaster tweed amps and threw Ed a few prototypes to try out. Not convinced about this necessarily, as Fender would almost certainly stick with the traditional aesthetics if that were the case.

3. Similar to The Edge's signature tweed Deluxe, maybe Fender are bringing out a Vedder signature in the near-ish future and these are instead prototypes of that?

I'm thinking 1 is most likely.
My brother is convinced its a tonemaster....

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Seeing it clearer on the performance vids, I think he could be right.

Ed using digital modelling amps, what a time to be alive.

It looks very much like the FR-10 and FR-12 powered speakers, which means (if true) he must have a modeller (e.g. ToneMaster Pro, Kemper, etc.) running into them, probably hiding behind the amps.

I get that it makes sense for reliability on the road but I'm still a complete tube snob.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:14 pm
by Birds in Hell
VinylGuy wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Not to blow smoke up the guy, but trag's posts have been great during this album cycle.

No knock against stip but I'm never going to read his in-depth song reviews - it's just not my thing.

Much rather hear trag talk about drums.
Maybe you two Can like mm talk over the phone then ?
And deny the people these valuable insights?

That just seems cruel.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:14 pm
by dprival78
Arthur Morgan wrote:Anyone know how much the band paid Watt for DM? I have no idea and just curious
they only paid with their souls

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:14 pm
by Oversize
Birds in Hell wrote:My wife saw me watching the Stern videos and asked why Ed looks so puffy.
I'm going to guess a combination of:
- wide-angle lens?
- mornings are just like that for some

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:18 pm
by Arthur Morgan
dprival78 wrote:
Arthur Morgan wrote:Anyone know how much the band paid Watt for DM? I have no idea and just curious
they only paid with their souls

:-)

He has won a Grammy or two in the past. Can’t imagine it would be cheap.


Do costs of producing the record bleed into ticket sales?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:29 pm
by Grego
Humble question here, not American and never heard of Howard before.

How is this Howard Stern show recorded?

Is him speaking from his home and talking to the band from a screen?

And where is the band? At their own place or in the show’s set?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Grego wrote:Humble question here, not American and never heard of Howard before.

How is this Howard Stern show recorded?

Is him speaking from his home and talking to the band from a screen?

And where is the band? At their own place or in the show’s set?
Howard was in his Sirius studio in either nyc or Miami. The band was in their rehearsal space in Seattle. So it was only 6 am for them

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:35 pm
by Grego
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Grego wrote:Humble question here, not American and never heard of Howard before.

How is this Howard Stern show recorded?

Is him speaking from his home and talking to the band from a screen?

And where is the band? At their own place or in the show’s set?
Howard was in his Sirius studio in either nyc or Miami. The band was in their rehearsal space in Seattle. So it was only 6 am for them
Great, thanks :hooray:

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:45 pm
by brisk
I'm from the UK but you never heard of Howard Stern!? I guess you don't use youtube lol.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:49 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Ed's hat got me all like "I'm good with just listening to the audio file" :)

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
brisk wrote:I'm from the UK but you never heard of Howard Stern!? I guess you don't use youtube lol.
I'm from the UK and use YouTube all the time but managed to completely avoid Howard Stern forever until Pearl Jam was on it

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 10:55 pm
by spike
Ensign9 wrote:This was probably already posted but Boom was in the room with the guys yesterday morning. You can see him at the 0:38 mark:

He’s probably been squatting there for years, and this is the first time in two decades anyone’s shown up to the space before noon. Boom busted.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:00 pm
by WaitingForBluey
scrub12 wrote:Just listened to the Jeff/Stone pod. Stone sounds almost giddy about where the band is right now.
No doubt, this is the most "tuned in" Stone's been for a long time.

He literally said "if it were up to me, I'd say let's do it all again" (as in working fast and in the moment with Watt)

I think that's why we are hearing some inspired Stone contributions again (Scared of Fear, Upper Hand)

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:04 pm
by Grego
brisk wrote:I'm from the UK but you never heard of Howard Stern!? I guess you don't use youtube lol.
I use YouTube everyday for 15 years lol

But you know, demographics.. they don’t throw this kind of content over here (Brazil).

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:07 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Birds in Hell wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Not to blow smoke up the guy, but trag's posts have been great during this album cycle.

No knock against stip but I'm never going to read his in-depth song reviews - it's just not my thing.

Much rather hear trag talk about drums.
Maybe you two Can like mm talk over the phone then ?
And deny the people these valuable insights?

That just seems cruel.
The Robin to Trag's Batman

Edit... nah... probably more like the Flavor Flav to Trag's Chuck D... a true hype man

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:14 pm
by Farmer John
Adorable!

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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:16 pm
by brisk
Grego wrote:
brisk wrote:I'm from the UK but you never heard of Howard Stern!? I guess you don't use youtube lol.
I use YouTube everyday for 15 years lol

But you know, demographics.. they don’t throw this kind of content over here (Brazil).
I actually live in Colombia but the algorithms follow you wherever you go.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Thu April 25, 2024 11:19 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:
lvc wrote:Niche subset of this Howard Stern post, specifically the Yellow Ledbetter video:

Close-ups of Mike's pedal board. I can identify the MXR flanger, script logo Phase 90, and UniVibe, and Carbon Copy delay (a surprising amount of MXR -- for a guy who could get any hand-built boutique thing in the world, he has a pedal board you could put together at Guitar Center for like $800 plus that big switcher). I also see a Line 6 delay (hard to miss) and a Boss Vibrato. Can't make out what the golden pedal is or the one to the left of that (black with white writing). And obviously a wah though I don't recognize the logo.

I know there used to be a place to talk gear but it seems to have disappeared. Anyone else geek out to this stuff and have insight on the right half of Mike's board?
I was actually quite pleased to the see the carbon copy delay. i thought he had just been utilizing the digital line 6 for so long now. The carbon copy is one of the best/most affordable delay pedals and i absolutely love mine. It seems to be at the top of most players lists for best all around.

I cant pick out what overdrive he is using though.
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To my eyes, the beginning of the chain looks like a Mission expression pedal, a barely visible gold pedal (overdrive?) followed by an EHX Stereo Electric Mistress - and then the MXR Flanger, Phase 90, etc.

Mission make (or used to make) a wah but it's purple, so I'm leaning towards it being an expression controller instead, which means Mike could be relying on a digital wah from the switcher/multi-effect.

Mystery gold pedal could be the MXR Custom Badass Modified Overdrive.