Red Mosquito

spike wrote:I like how verb is trying to frame his trip to Nashville like he’s storming the beaches of Normandy.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

If you think the vaccine will keep you from going in the hospital or dying then awesome, people should take it. The problem with the vaccine is delta and whatever other variants are going to continue to spread like crazy , no matter if everyone takes the vaccine or not. That of course leads to morbidly obese govs feeling like they have to "do something" and ordering 10 percent effective mask mandates that only idiots like spike have still been following.

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

not sure where you're getting 85% fully vaccinated from. i'm seeing 67.5% as of two weeks ago.

also seeing over three quarters of your hospitalizations are unvaccinated patients.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

I get that. But there's a huge population here that can get the vaccination but choose not to. And they are getting hospitalized and dying because of their choice, not because they can't get the vaccine for health reasons.

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

not sure where you're getting 85% fully vaccinated from. i'm seeing 67.5% as of two weeks ago.

also seeing over three quarters of your hospitalizations are unvaccinated patients.

Those figures are for all BC and includes people under 12. 84.696% one dose and 76.318 double dosed. Take the vaccine, it helps but it's not working like hoped. However I was wrong, I pulled the 85% double dosed from the single dosed field.

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

And not stopping transmission has us with vaccine passports coming in with no exemptions. If you are not able to take the vaccine, going out is basically not an option. The vaccine is shaping up to be a twice a year mandatory flu shot. I have nothing against that but imagine it is a a depressing though to those who cannot medically take the vaccine that they are not even given the choice to take the risk to go do mundane things like eat in a restaurant or see a movie.

not sure where you're getting 85% fully vaccinated from. i'm seeing 67.5% as of two weeks ago.

also seeing over three quarters of your hospitalizations are unvaccinated patients.

Those figures are for all BC and includes people under 12. 84.696% one dose and 76.318 double dosed. Take the vaccine, it helps but it's not working like hoped. However I was wrong, I pulled the 85% double dosed from the single dosed field.

it's awesome that those eligible seem to be getting the vaccine, but when trying to understand infection spread, you can't omit the under 12s. that's a huge chunk of hosts, you know?

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

surfndestroy wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

Full on lockdowns.

spike wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

989 dead in australia vs 633,000 in the US

i think aus is doing just fine

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

If you think the vaccine will keep you from going in the hospital or dying then awesome, people should take it. The problem with the vaccine is delta and whatever other variants are going to continue to spread like crazy , no matter if everyone takes the vaccine or not. That of course leads to morbidly obese govs feeling like they have to "do something" and ordering 10 percent effective mask mandates that only idiots like spike have still been following.

everyone taking the vaccine is exactly what would stop variants and spreading.

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

989 dead in australia vs 633,000 in the US

i think aus is doing just fine

Theyll get their turn eventually. Or do you think they'll just never open back up to the world?

Rangi Guy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

989 dead in australia vs 633,000 in the US

i think aus is doing just fine

Theyll get their turn eventually. Or do you think they'll just never open back up to the world?

They'll probably do like there's talk of here. Only let vaccinated people in and do it in a contolled way to limit exposure, enforce contact tracing etc...

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:
The vaccine may be lower hospitalization rate and death rates

I mean...

If you think the vaccine will keep you from going in the hospital or dying then awesome, people should take it. The problem with the vaccine is delta and whatever other variants are going to continue to spread like crazy , no matter if everyone takes the vaccine or not. That of course leads to morbidly obese govs feeling like they have to "do something" and ordering 10 percent effective mask mandates that only idiots like spike have still been following.

everyone taking the vaccine is exactly what would stop variants and spreading.

Didnt seem to help in Israel.

The country jumped out ahead of all other countries on vaccines, and 78% of eligible Israelis over 12 years old are vaccinated.

But Israel has a young population, with many under the eligible age for vaccination, and about 1.1 million eligible Israelis, largely between the ages of 12 and 20, have declined to take even one dose of the vaccine.

That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. Experts say that's not nearly high enough.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

4/5 wrote:At least we haven't gone full Australia.

What's 'full Australia'?

989 dead in australia vs 633,000 in the US

i think aus is doing just fine

Theyll get their turn eventually. Or do you think they'll just never open back up to the world?

They'll probably do like there's talk of here. Only let vaccinated people in and do it in a contolled way to limit exposure, enforce contact tracing etc...

Sounds super fun. Do you think Spikes wife will get to see her family ever again?