Pretty much.harmless wrote:OK, thanks for the clarification. So it's more of an all-encompassing reaction to the general pop direction, where they're doing 'PJ things' but aren't pushing them as far beyond 'enjoyable' as they used to.cutuphalfdead wrote:That's a good point. I think it's a lot worse these days though because Pearl Jam has become a bit of a caricature of its former self, making the more standard parts of the songs even more bland.harmless wrote:The fadeouts are bad and they happen too quickly, especially if you listen carefully. The cut-off points are too abrupt.cutuphalfdead wrote:The fadeouts are awful too.
Just a question though: you mention that the interesting things begin to happen, but then swiftly change back to standard PJ, so there's not enough time given to the original parts. Do you not feel like that about a lot of PJ? They're always keen to remind us they're just a rock band, even in their most interesting songs, imo.
And I didn't say parts were that original, just interesting. Let The Records Play for a few seconds sounds like it's going to be a really cool, sideways, crunchy number right up until the point Ed opens his mouth. Not that Ed is the only problem, but that's the moment the song starts to suck.
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Are there already lyrics for Getaway?
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I very pleased about the overall dynamics of the songs and rhythms. The songs move around and have some of that "groove" back.
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Swallowed Whole @ 1:17-1:44, great. It gets there again later, too, I think. And other parts of it are pretty, but that first pick-up early in the song is where it peaks for me. The solo is excellent, too, though.
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To be honest MYM isn't really my kind of song either i dislike that bridge/chorus whatever it is quite a bit. But LB is basically Unthought known/ amongst the waves on roids. Which is awesome for the people that like those songs but definitly not for me. All i hear is cheese and faux uplifting music, and how many songs is ed gonna write with that dum dum dum dum palm muted riff under the verses.solace wrote:shockingly i like Lightning Bolt more than MYM. i was SO bored with that song at Wrigley. the chorus lyrics are still super cheesy, but musically it's pretty aces.stupidmop wrote:They dropped the ball on that chorus man. I bet it was either eddie or Bo'B. Could have gone fun or dancey with some edge and some swagger like the rest of the song but nooo...solace wrote:LTRP might be...jforte20 wrote:I dont feel like any of these will be setlist killers either.
it could go either way. it's so cheesy, but musically i could see Mike & Stone ripping it up enough to forgive Ed's vocal melody.
MYM is better then everything except getaway.
See i already knew i disliked this song but its still getting under my skin. Grr arrgh.
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It really does sound like KISS.solace wrote:YUP.Strat wrote:Ament is killing it in Getaway....
Getaway is their most Kiss sounding tune too
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Strangely, although I prefer MYM to all of these as a song, I think all of these are better performances.
Jesus Christ I'm looking forward to Infallible based on these, though. Expectations are through the roof for that one.
Jesus Christ I'm looking forward to Infallible based on these, though. Expectations are through the roof for that one.
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stupidmop wrote:To be honest MYM isn't really my kind of song either i dislike that bridge/chorus whatever it is quite a bit. But LB is basically Unthought known/ amongst the waves on roids. Which is awesome for the people that like those songs but definitly not for me. All i hear is cheese and faux uplifting music, and how many songs is ed gonna write with that dum dum dum dum palm muted riff under the verses.solace wrote:shockingly i like Lightning Bolt more than MYM. i was SO bored with that song at Wrigley. the chorus lyrics are still super cheesy, but musically it's pretty aces.stupidmop wrote:They dropped the ball on that chorus man. I bet it was either eddie or Bo'B. Could have gone fun or dancey with some edge and some swagger like the rest of the song but nooo...solace wrote:LTRP might be...jforte20 wrote:I dont feel like any of these will be setlist killers either.
it could go either way. it's so cheesy, but musically i could see Mike & Stone ripping it up enough to forgive Ed's vocal melody.
MYM is better then everything except getaway.
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After two or three albums where I wasnt hearing many new things vocally from Ed, at least a couple of these songs (Inc MYM), have some neat things going on. Color me excited.
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I think it was a bold move to put a song like Getaway at the start of the album. That kind of song would've been in Unemployable's place on other albums. But it's a great opener.
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3 more you say? Is he doing this just to hurt me?stip wrote:stupidmop wrote:To be honest MYM isn't really my kind of song either i dislike that bridge/chorus whatever it is quite a bit. But LB is basically Unthought known/ amongst the waves on roids. Which is awesome for the people that like those songs but definitly not for me. All i hear is cheese and faux uplifting music, and how many songs is ed gonna write with that dum dum dum dum palm muted riff under the verses.solace wrote:shockingly i like Lightning Bolt more than MYM. i was SO bored with that song at Wrigley. the chorus lyrics are still super cheesy, but musically it's pretty aces.stupidmop wrote:They dropped the ball on that chorus man. I bet it was either eddie or Bo'B. Could have gone fun or dancey with some edge and some swagger like the rest of the song but nooo...solace wrote:LTRP might be...jforte20 wrote:I dont feel like any of these will be setlist killers either.
it could go either way. it's so cheesy, but musically i could see Mike & Stone ripping it up enough to forgive Ed's vocal melody.
MYM is better then everything except getaway.
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yeah, that's a good point... had i heard Lightning Bolt first, i'd definitely enjoy it more than Unthought or Amongststupidmop wrote:solace wrote:stupidmop wrote:To be honest MYM isn't really my kind of song either i dislike that bridge/chorus whatever it is quite a bit. But LB is basically Unthought known/ amongst the waves on roids. Which is awesome for the people that like those songs but definitly not for me. All i hear is cheese and faux uplifting music, and how many songs is ed gonna write with that dum dum dum dum palm muted riff under the verses.solace wrote: shockingly i like Lightning Bolt more than MYM. i was SO bored with that song at Wrigley. the chorus lyrics are still super cheesy, but musically it's pretty aces.
See i already knew i disliked this song but its still getting under my skin. Grr arrgh.
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the last one is called stupid mop reprise
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Those notes at the end of LB are definitely the beginning of Infallible from the soundcheck.
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stip wrote:we'll always have thiscutuphalfdead wrote:The fadeouts are awful too.
iirc there're only 2 on binaural , round,round,round, round
what the point of the fade out?
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There are 3 additional songs in a separate .rar file
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To be fair, you're worried about Ed repeating the da-da-da-da rhythm on the guitar because guitar is what you listen to, primarily. How do you think I feel when I listen to punk and for every song, the drummer goes boom-cha! boom-cha! boom-cha! boom-cha! really fast?stupidmop wrote:3 more you say? Is he doing this just to hurt me?stip wrote:stupidmop wrote:To be honest MYM isn't really my kind of song either i dislike that bridge/chorus whatever it is quite a bit. But LB is basically Unthought known/ amongst the waves on roids. Which is awesome for the people that like those songs but definitly not for me. All i hear is cheese and faux uplifting music, and how many songs is ed gonna write with that dum dum dum dum palm muted riff under the verses.solace wrote:shockingly i like Lightning Bolt more than MYM. i was SO bored with that song at Wrigley. the chorus lyrics are still super cheesy, but musically it's pretty aces.stupidmop wrote:They dropped the ball on that chorus man. I bet it was either eddie or Bo'B. Could have gone fun or dancey with some edge and some swagger like the rest of the song but nooo...solace wrote:LTRP might be...jforte20 wrote:I dont feel like any of these will be setlist killers either.
it could go either way. it's so cheesy, but musically i could see Mike & Stone ripping it up enough to forgive Ed's vocal melody.
MYM is better then everything except getaway.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
that opening to Getaway reminds me of a more straightforward take on the Unemployable riff.harmless wrote:I think it was a bold move to put a song like Getaway at the start of the album. That kind of song would've been in Unemployable's place on other albums. But it's a great opener.
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I bet it features a piano solo by Bo'B toostip wrote:the last one is called stupid mop reprise
Don't fuck with me bro.theplatypus wrote:There are 3 additional songs in a separate .rar file