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Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:02 pm
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:not able to watch today, grabbing headlines here and there. would love a review when it's done, also McP's take on GOP response/fallout if he's up for it
This is assuming Kavanaugh’s testimony doesn’t shock me with its effectiveness:
I still think that it’s most probable that they take him to a vote and he doesn’t make it. I’d be less surprised now if they withdrew him, but still surprised. Their base would be furious. Also this way the president can tell voters that the senate was the problem...it wasn’t his loss. It’s not impossible that they drop him, depending on his half of this hearing, but that would be a happy surprise to me. They’d have to recognize that the cost of the vote outweighs the benefit, and we just haven’t seen any evidence of that. They probably believe that he’s done, and want that vote done ASAP so they can move on to someone else.
They’ll trot out some weak, carefully selected credibility attacks. “Oh, she’s scared of flying, but gets on planes! Unheard of!” These aren’t actually an attempt to provide any vote cover...they’re a fanning of partisan flames. They’ll want the base mad, energized, and feeling unduly robbed.
I also think that today will cause them yet more heartache in the midterms, although how they maneuver the confirmation vote and loss will decide the severity. If they place him on the court after this, a lot of races will be in play that were not before.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:09 pm
by 4/5
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:09 pm
by wease
You guys are pretty sure if it goes to a vote, he doesn’t get in. While I, obviously, hope that doesn’t happen, remember one thing: Trump won the election.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:10 pm
by wease
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:11 pm
by BurtReynolds
Why wouldn't it go to a vote? Nothing has changed. you bleeding hearts are all worked up and set up for disappointment again.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:13 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:13 pm
by 4/5
Lindsay Graham wrote:Well let me put it this way to my Republican colleagues. If this becomes the new standard where you have an accusation for weeks, you drop it right before the hearing you withhold from the committee a chance to do this in a professional timely fashion. When they say they’re going to do this is to delay the vote get the senate back in 2018 so they can fill the seat. I don’t want to publicly reward that kind of behavior. I think we’ve been very fair. And to my Republican colleagues. If you can ignore everything in this record an allegation that’s 35 years old, that’s uncertain in time place date and no corroboration. If that’s enough for you , God help us all as Republicans. Because this happens to us, but this never happens to them. Let me tell my democratic friends, if this is the new norm, you better watch out for your nominees.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:14 pm
by dimejinky99
Well they’re on brand consistent at least
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:24 pm
by digster
A majority of Republicans believe Kavanaugh should be appointed even if the the accusation is true. I think it's still very possible he gets a nomination and possible he's confirmed.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:30 pm
by McParadigm
Cornyn, on CBS: "I found no reason to find her not credible.”
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:33 pm
by 4/5
Early post-testimony tactic appears to be to attack Democrats for using Dr. Ford rather than attacking her personally.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:36 pm
by McParadigm
4/5 wrote:Early post-testimony tactic appears to be to attack Democrats for using Dr. Ford rather than attacking her personally.
Which is exactly the wisest approach if you plan to take the loss and replace, but also need your team fired up for the midterms.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 6:37 pm
by BurtReynolds
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:19 pm
by McParadigm
Uh
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:23 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:Uh
Goddammit McP
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:24 pm
by McParadigm
“Unhinged” is a strange choice for a Supreme Court nominee.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:25 pm
by McParadigm
Did he just blame the Clintons?
2018 is memorable, anyway.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:26 pm
by verb_to_trust
YES
LET THE HATE CONSUME YOU BRETT
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:27 pm
by Strat
he's just coming across as an angry old white man.
Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Thu September 27, 2018 7:29 pm
by Strat
ha! those sniffles and fake crying.