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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 2:45 am
by McParadigm
Quite a lot of big companies with massive demo research budgets feeling safe to skew political tonight.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 2:47 am
by tragabigzanda
McParadigm wrote:Quite a lot of big companies with massive demo research budgets feeling safe to skew political tonight.
Poor people don't buy those goods and services, McP.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 2:59 am
by McParadigm
Courtesy of the New York Times: Donald Trump doesn't know what he's signing.
Trump and Staff Rethink Tactics After Stumbles
This account of the early days of the Trump White House is based on interviews with dozens of government officials, congressional aides, former staff members and other observers of the new administration, many of whom requested anonymity. At the center of the story, according to these sources, is a president determined to go big but increasingly frustrated by the efforts of his small team to contain the backlash.
“What are we going to do about this?” Mr. Trump pointedly asked an aide last week, a period of turmoil briefly interrupted by the successful rollout of his Supreme Court selection, Judge Neil M. Gorsuch.
Chris Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax Media and an old friend of the president’s, said: “I think, in his mind, the success of this is going to be the poll numbers. If they continue to be weak or go lower, then somebody’s going to have to bear some responsibility for that.”
Cloistered in the White House, he now has little access to his fans and supporters — an important source of feedback and validation — and feels increasingly pinched by the pressures of the job and the constant presence of protests, one of the reasons he was forced to scrap a planned trip to Milwaukee last week. For a sense of what is happening outside, he watches cable, both at night and during the day — too much in the eyes of some aides — often offering a bitter play-by-play of critics like CNN’s Don Lemon.
Until the past few days, Mr. Trump was telling his friends and advisers that he believed the opening stages of his presidency were going well. “Did you hear that, this guy thinks it’s been terrible!” Mr. Trump said mockingly to other aides when one dissenting view was voiced last week during a West Wing meeting.
But his opinion has begun to change with a relentless parade of bad headlines.
Mr. Trump got away from the White House this weekend for the first time since his inauguration, spending it in Palm Beach, Fla., at his private club, Mar-a-Lago, posting Twitter messages angrily — and in personal terms — about the federal judge who put a nationwide halt on the travel ban. Mr. Bannon and Reince Priebus, the two clashing power centers, traveled with him.
Mr. Priebus bristles at the perception that he occupies a diminished perch in the West Wing pecking order compared with previous chiefs. But for the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:17 am
by wease
McParadigm wrote:Courtesy of the New York Times: Donald Trump doesn't know what he's signing.
Trump and Staff Rethink Tactics After Stumbles
This account of the early days of the Trump White House is based on interviews with dozens of government officials, congressional aides, former staff members and other observers of the new administration, many of whom requested anonymity. At the center of the story, according to these sources, is a president determined to go big but increasingly frustrated by the efforts of his small team to contain the backlash.
“What are we going to do about this?” Mr. Trump pointedly asked an aide last week, a period of turmoil briefly interrupted by the successful rollout of his Supreme Court selection, Judge Neil M. Gorsuch.
Chris Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax Media and an old friend of the president’s, said: “I think, in his mind, the success of this is going to be the poll numbers. If they continue to be weak or go lower, then somebody’s going to have to bear some responsibility for that.”
Cloistered in the White House, he now has little access to his fans and supporters — an important source of feedback and validation — and feels increasingly pinched by the pressures of the job and the constant presence of protests, one of the reasons he was forced to scrap a planned trip to Milwaukee last week. For a sense of what is happening outside, he watches cable, both at night and during the day — too much in the eyes of some aides — often offering a bitter play-by-play of critics like CNN’s Don Lemon.
Until the past few days, Mr. Trump was telling his friends and advisers that he believed the opening stages of his presidency were going well. “Did you hear that, this guy thinks it’s been terrible!” Mr. Trump said mockingly to other aides when one dissenting view was voiced last week during a West Wing meeting.
But his opinion has begun to change with a relentless parade of bad headlines.
Mr. Trump got away from the White House this weekend for the first time since his inauguration, spending it in Palm Beach, Fla., at his private club, Mar-a-Lago, posting Twitter messages angrily — and in personal terms — about the federal judge who put a nationwide halt on the travel ban. Mr. Bannon and Reince Priebus, the two clashing power centers, traveled with him.
Mr. Priebus bristles at the perception that he occupies a diminished perch in the West Wing pecking order compared with previous chiefs. But for the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban.
Proof that Trump's the puppet and Bannon the master?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:21 am
by LoathedVermin72
I feel like there's a legitimate possibility that Trump is going to lose his grip on sanity over all this.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:22 am
by wease
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I feel like there's a legitimate possibility that Trump is going to lose his grip on sanity over all this.
You say that as if he had one
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:45 am
by Citizen Dick
[Trump] feels increasingly pinched by the pressures of the job and the constant presence of protests, one of the reasons he was forced to scrap a planned trip to Milwaukee last week
But, but, but... I thought the hysterical protests served no purpose and were a waste of time?!
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:46 am
by BurtReynolds
Wishful thinking tabloid nonsense. Since when does Trump and Co. care about or believe poll numbers? If he's angry about anything, it's not poll numbers or the staff he picked, it's at the media for being so mean to him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:59 am
by Citizen Dick
Chicken or egg. You're probably right that its the big, bad meeja that keeps Mr Thin Skin awake at night, but its the polls and ridiculous staff appointments (and protests) that gives the media the fuel to keep taking potshots at him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 4:11 am
by BurtReynolds
I suspect he's always angry. About everything.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 4:12 am
by 96583UP
he looks like he's gained some weight already in the first 2 weeks here
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 4:33 am
by verb_to_trust
Sarah Silverman seems smart
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 4:46 am
by McParadigm
Uber, Twitter, Netflix and other tech giants to call travel ban ‘unlawful’ in rare coordinated legal action
Silicon Valley is stepping up its confrontation with the Trump administration.
On Sunday night, Uber, Twitter, Netflix and other prominent tech companies are planning to file legal brief opposing the administration’s contentious travel ban on immigrants, according to people familiar with the matter.
The amicus brief is expected to be filed with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which is expected to rule within a few days on an appeal by the administration after a federal judge in Seattle issued late Friday a temporary restraining order putting the travel ban on hold. The brief comes at the end of a week of nationwide protests against the plan — as well as a flurry of activity in Silicon Valley, a region that sees immigration as central to its identity as an innovation hub.
Companies backing the filing also include Pinterest, Yelp, Square, Reddit, Kickstarter, Github, Glassdoor, Box, Mozilla, Dropbox, Twilio, Zynga, Medium, and Salesforce, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the filing was still being finalized Sunday.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:31 pm
by McParadigm
When even John Yoo feels the urge to write to the New York Times expressing "grave concerns" about Trump's use of presidential power.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:38 pm
by Simple Torture
Do we think all of the "President Bannon" comments are getting under Trump's skin a little bit?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:41 pm
by Jorge
Jesus this 'FAKE NEWS' thing...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:42 pm
by Simple Torture
theplatypus wrote:Jesus this 'FAKE NEWS' thing...
Both of his tweets today have used that phrase:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:43 pm
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:Wishful thinking tabloid nonsense. Since when does Trump and Co. care about or believe poll numbers? If he's angry about anything, it's not poll numbers or the staff he picked, it's at the media for being so mean to him.
The insecure man obsessed with himself who constantly talks about how wrong the polls are absolutely cares about what the polls say.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:44 pm
by Norah
Simple Torture wrote:theplatypus wrote:Jesus this 'FAKE NEWS' thing...
Both of his tweets today have used that phrase:
See they're only fake if they're negative.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Mon February 06, 2017 3:52 pm
by McParadigm
Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying
by (no shit) Charlie Sykes
On his first full day in office Mr. Trump insisted that his inaugural crowd was the largest ever, a baseless boast that will likely set a pattern for his relationship both to the media and to the truth.
At an event marking Black History Month last week, the president took a detour from a discussion of Frederick Douglass — he described the abolitionist as “an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more” — to talk about the press. “A lot of the media is actually the opposition party — they’re so biased,” he said. “So much of the media is the opposition party and knowingly saying incorrect things.”
Mr. Trump understands that attacking the media is the reddest of meat for his base, which has been conditioned to reject reporting from news sites outside of the conservative media ecosystem.
For years, as a conservative radio talk show host, I played a role in that conditioning by hammering the mainstream media for its bias and double standards. But the price turned out to be far higher than I imagined. The cumulative effect of the attacks was to delegitimize those outlets and essentially destroy much of the right’s immunity to false information. We thought we were creating a savvier, more skeptical audience. Instead, we opened the door for President Trump, who found an audience that could be easily misled.
The news media’s spectacular failure to get the election right has made it only easier for many conservatives to ignore anything that happens outside the right’s bubble and for the Trump White House to fabricate facts with little fear of alienating its base.
Unfortunately, that also means that the more the fact-based media tries to debunk the president’s falsehoods, the further it will entrench the battle lines.
During his first week in office, Mr. Trump reiterated the unfounded charge that millions of people had voted illegally. When challenged on the evident falsehood, Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, seemed to argue that Mr. Trump’s belief that something was true qualified as evidence. The press secretary also declined to answer a straightforward question about the unemployment rate, suggesting that the number will henceforth be whatever the Trump administration wants it to be.
He can do this because members of the Trump administration feel confident that the alternative-reality media will provide air cover, even if they are caught fabricating facts or twisting words (like claiming that the “ban” on Muslim immigrants wasn’t really a “ban”). Indeed, they believe they have shifted the paradigm of media coverage, replacing the traditional media with their own.
In a stunning demonstration of the power and resiliency of our new post-factual political culture, Mr. Trump and his allies in the right media have already turned the term “fake news” against its critics, essentially draining it of any meaning. During the campaign, actual “fake news” — deliberate hoaxes — polluted political discourse and clogged social media timelines.
Some outlets opened the door, by helping spread conspiracy theories and indulging the paranoia of the fever swamps. For years, the widely read Drudge Report has linked to the bizarre conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who believes that both the attacks of Sept. 11 and the Sandy Hook shootings were government-inspired “false flag” operations.
For conservatives, this should have made it clear that something was badly amiss in their media ecosystem. But now any news deemed to be biased, annoying or negative can be labeled “fake news.” Erroneous reports that the bust of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the Oval Office or misleading reports that sanctions against Russia had been lifted will be seized on by Mr. Trump’s White House to reinforce his indictment.