Red Mosquito

Hey there everybody! I’m out without the kids tonight(never happens) about 4 drinks in. At a bar listening to crap music. About to go take the DJ reigns and put DM on. Jk. Hope y’all all having a good night!

Strat wrote:Lol guys are really wrapped up in Spotify EQ settings as if there is some magic setting that is gonna change everything.

Guys, the record is mixed the way it is mixed, the stuff you do on your streaming platforms will make minor changes to the overall thing. Just start messing with it yourselves until you find something you like. Its no different than going up to your receiver and changing the treble, bass, etc...

No reason to fuss.

That’s kind of what I’ve said all along. And it’s highly subjective.

It’s not a magic bullet for bad mixing etc, but it can accentuate or pull back part of the spectrum based on what you like, and I do think one can improve upon the default settings by tweaking on their own.

Thats about it. Which is why I thought it was odd that anyone would de so desperate to see my settings. Little old me. What do I know?

Birds in Hell wrote:I'm genuinely surprised anyone uses EQ settings, especially pre-sets.

There's almost no way they're going to do anything helpful.

The only thing, i think, they really do is....how much low end do you want? More or less? Thats about it

This album is still imcredible one week later.

Just got my 10C vinyl. Can’t wait to spin later.

I tried to find who posted this sentiment to give credit - there is no trying to convince myself to like any of these songs. They’re all so easy to like. That’s a first for me since Vitalogy.

Strat wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I'm genuinely surprised anyone uses EQ settings, especially pre-sets.

There's almost no way they're going to do anything helpful.

The only thing, i think, they really do is....how much low end do you want? More or less? Thats about it

I can see using a very modest bass boost if something's a bit lacking.

But those presets are making sweeping EQ changes that affect the whole sound, I can't believe they sound any good compared to just leaving it flat.

Unbelievable to think Upper Hand WFS and Setting Sun have a higher percentage of 5 star votes than elderly evenflow Gtf . They are three highest rated 94 92 and 92 5 star votes. Crazy

Listened to the Ten Club vinyl on my ok turntable with my Benz Micro Glider SL and NAD amplifier in my Sennheiser headphones and it was wonderful. The mix is still not perfect but it is far better than anything else I’ve heard, and there were many aspects I noticed that I hadn’t before, like the dueling guitars in each channel in Won’t Tell. Such a beautiful album. Feeling extraordinarily grateful.

Tj wrote:Unbelievable to think Upper Hand WFS and Setting Sun have a higher percentage of 5 star votes than elderly evenflow Gtf . They are three highest rated 94 92 and 92 5 star votes. Crazy

I can't get the hype around Setting Sun.

The finish is beautiful, but the first part is mundane.

DeeDee wrote:

Tj wrote:Unbelievable to think Upper Hand WFS and Setting Sun have a higher percentage of 5 star votes than elderly evenflow Gtf . They are three highest rated 94 92 and 92 5 star votes. Crazy

I can't get the hype around Setting Sun.

The finish is beautiful, but the first part is mundane.

It's a very good song. But as an album closer it becomes excellent.

Matters wrote:Which song (if any) from DM is going to be a live rarity? My guess would be Something Special but I have a feeling they’re gonna play them all, hopefully even the mighty humble bit.

Got to Give is gonna be a tough one for Ed to sing so I don't think that'll get much play. Same for Dark Matter.

It’s only a week.


I give it 12 more days before the tide turns and RM does its thing and turns on this thing and starts tearing it apart.

We’re kinda known for that

dimejinky99 wrote:It’s only a week.


I give it 12 more days before the tide turns and RM does its thing and turns on this thing and starts tearing it apart.

We’re kinda known for that

I won’t be tearing it apart but I did put it down for a week so far just to keep myself from getting sick of it.

i finally got an apple music subscription. listening to DM on apple music - the atmos mix using air pods with spatial audio active. can hear some things more clearly, but other things just drop out. one of the guitars is almost inaudible at the start of dark matter

Don't see myself tearing it down any time soon. If anything, I've grown to appreciate certain elements even more.
That said, I haven't over-listened, either. Trying to keep it somewhat fresh.

stip wrote:i finally got an apple music subscription. listening to DM on apple music - the atmos mix using air pods with spatial audio active. can hear some things more clearly, but other things just drop out. one of the guitars is almost inaudible at the start of dark matter

That's great. Looking forward to further impressions, stip.

If anything this album just continues to grow for me....Got To Give and React, Respond are pushing hard to join the 5* club which would legitimately push this album into that untouchables territory reserved for the bands first four albums.

oneway23 wrote:Don't see myself tearing it down any time soon. If anything, I've grown to appreciate certain elements even more.
That said, I haven't over-listened, either. Trying to keep it somewhat fresh.

stip wrote:i finally got an apple music subscription. listening to DM on apple music - the atmos mix using air pods with spatial audio active. can hear some things more clearly, but other things just drop out. one of the guitars is almost inaudible at the start of dark matter

That's great. Looking forward to further impressions, stip.

need more than one listen. since im still in the discovery phase in general and have hardly absorbed all the details in the songs right now it may mute the impact. I THINK I prefer the spotify mix best so far tbh. still havent been able to hear the actual cd or blu ray.

in general the atmos mix (of which i am experiencing an imperfect spatial audio translation) the drums and eddie are forward at the expense of the guitars, which, for my preferences, is a lesser trade off - though together they give a fuller composite picture of the album. it’s annoying that this is what it takes.

got to give is the only song that felt definitvely enhanced by atmos. that was great

i think i may prefer the end of setting sun this way, too

I think for me, what's keeping this as a PRAMG album and not an all-timer is:

1. pop production: unlike some here I don't consider it "bad", it's a choice, but it also doesn't really reflect the band pre-MG

2. not enough darkness / weirdness: yes it's there in the lyrics, but musically, React / Respond is the only real nod to the unfriendly; the rest is a pretty straight up (though excellent) classic rock album

I had a 3 but I've forgotten it

so I love this album, I consider it a late career miracle alongside Gigaton, but I couldn't rank it like 4 or 5 in the catalogue like some are doing