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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 1:38 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
wease wrote:Bye bye, birthright citizenship.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 816666002/

*Abolish birth right citizenship for people here on visa violations or here illegally.
"It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don't," Trump told "Axios on HBO"
The US Constitution wrote:All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I'm no legal scholar, but there doesn't seem like a lot of wiggle room there.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 1:52 pm
by McParadigm
It’s just Republican vote turnout. And also a bad election play overall, because support for birthright citizenship has doubled in the last 3-4 years

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:38 pm
by liebzz
I am pretty sure that on Nov. 5th, on the eve of voting, Trump will declare “by executive order I will abolish homework.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:49 pm
by McParadigm
liebzz wrote:I am pretty sure that on Nov. 5th, on the eve of voting, Trump will declare “by executive order I will abolish homework.”
I think we are a lot more likely to be dealing with false voter fraud claims then anything else, as it begins to sink in that he can’t lie his way to victory

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 2:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 3:20 pm
by liebzz
McParadigm wrote:
liebzz wrote:I am pretty sure that on Nov. 5th, on the eve of voting, Trump will declare “by executive order I will abolish homework.”
I think we are a lot more likely to be dealing with false voter fraud claims then anything else, as it begins to sink in that he can’t lie his way to victory
In all seriousness, you are 100% correct. Perhaps a callback claiming Democrats bussed a caravan of illegal invaders to the polls to vote, and that we now need to force people to show ID to vote and wouldn’t it be nice if we could charge a fee to vote - MAGA like it’s the 1940s.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 5:29 pm
by McParadigm
There’ve been some journalists describing being approached by these people, recently. I wasn’t sure that it wasn’t a hoax.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 5:33 pm
by 4/5
McParadigm wrote:It’s just Republican vote turnout. And also a bad election play overall, because support for birthright citizenship has doubled in the last 3-4 years
I wish I shared your confidence.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 8:22 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
What a lying con artist we have elected.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 8:23 pm
by McParadigm
Haha amazing

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 8:28 pm
by BurtReynolds
Haha I thought Jacob Wohl was just some kind of Twitter troll account. I can't believe he's real, and this stupid.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 8:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
yeah I just looked him up to, I have a hunch he's having a very stressful day

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 11:48 pm
by McParadigm
What a stupendous fuck up

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue October 30, 2018 11:59 pm
by McParadigm
It’s amazing that the president can’t get any republicans to appear with him in Pittsburgh, this close to the midterms.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 12:25 am
by 96583UP
i wonder if the latino youth will finally vote en masse given the birthright thing

who's to say he won't take citizenship away from those who have it?

all they need to do is fax instructions to the SCOTUS now

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 1:18 am
by McParadigm
Bill Mitchell is accusing Jacob Wohl of being an operative for the Democratic Party. Halloween candy arrived early this year.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 1:28 am
by 96583UP
have we reached peak media?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 1:00 pm
by McParadigm
Who cares who gets hurt

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 1:18 pm
by McParadigm
Has Mueller Subpoenaed the President?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/amp/s ... ump-222060
But for those of us who have been appellate lawyers, the brief docket entries tell a story. Here’s what we can glean:

The parties and the judges have moved with unusual alacrity. Parties normally have 30 days to appeal a lower court action. The witness here appealed just five days after losing in the district court – and three days later filed a motion before the appellate court to stay the district court’s order. That’s fast.

The appeals court itself responded with remarkable speed, too. One day after getting the witness’s motion, the court gave the special counsel just three days to respond – blindingly short as appellate proceedings go. The special counsel’s papers were filed October 1.
At this point an unspecified procedural flaw seems to have emerged, and on October 3, the appeals court dismissed the appeal. Just two days later, the lower court judge cured the flaw, the witness re-appealed, and by October 10 the witness was once again before appellate court. Thanks to very quick action of all the judges, less than one week was lost due to a flaw that, in other cases, could have taken weeks or months to resolve.

Back before the D.C. Circuit, this case’s very special handling continued. On October 10, the day the case returned to the court, the parties filed a motion for expedited handling, and within two days, the judges had granted their motion and set an accelerated briefing schedule. The witness was given just 11 days to file briefs; the special counsel (presumably) just two weeks to respond; and reply papers one week later, on November 14 (for those paying attention, that’s 8 days after the midterm elections). Oral arguments are set for December 14.

At every level, this matter has commanded the immediate and close attention of the judges involved – suggesting that no ordinary witness and no ordinary issue is involved. But is it the president? The docket sheets give one final – but compelling – clue. When the witness lost the first time in the circuit court (before the quick round-trip to the district court), he unusually petitioned for rehearing en banc – meaning he thought his case was so important that it merited the very unusual action of convening all 10 of the D.C. Circuit judges to review the order. That is itself telling (this witness believes his case demands very special handling), but the order disposing of the petition is even more telling: President Trump’s sole appointee to that court, Gregory Katsas, recused himself

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 31, 2018 1:47 pm
by Simple Torture
Been waiting 18 minutes for the 2nd half of this gem: