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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:54 pm
by harmless
sward wrote:stupidmop wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I just heard these a couple of times today. There is an implied urgency in all 4. I seem to remember that word being used a lot about Backspacer also, but this is different.
Leaves me wondering are these the high energy points of the record and is the rest all dark and moody?
Think I'd be ok with that. It's all going to come down to sequencing if this turns out to Be the case
I feel like these are all the filler tracks.
That should frighten you as it would be odd to give out all the weakest songs in a sampler, no? I really have no idea.
These won't be the worst songs, I think they're the most instantly appealing commercially. I guess you're not going to give away Infallible in a promo sampler for radio stations (or whatever this was).
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:55 pm
by dimejinky99
stupidmop wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I just heard these a couple of times today. There is an implied urgency in all 4. I seem to remember that word being used a lot about Backspacer also, but this is different.
Leaves me wondering are these the high energy points of the record and is the rest all dark and moody?
Think I'd be ok with that. It's all going to come down to sequencing if this turns out to Be the case
I feel like these are all the filler tracks.
These aren't filler by no means. There's far more depth and musically interesting stuff going on than anything on BS
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:55 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:harmless wrote:There's definitely a 90s rock (Counting Crows etc.) feel to some of this, especially in its relatively shiny production -- even if that's much better than Backspacer. But let's be honest, there isn't a million miles between 90s rock and 90s hard rock, even... wait for it... GRUNGE. So anyone who's saying that they've completely and utterly reinvented the PJ wheel with this is wrong. Even if it takes a page from the more commercial bands of PJ's 'ilk', that's OK, because Pearl Jam invented the ilk. They are allowed to do this, as long as it works, because they wrote the rule book.
I thought you were in the no leak club?
That's old news. I caved. Hard.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:55 pm
by solace
guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.
- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:55 pm
by Thejambi
If these songs are the "weaker" songs this album is going to be wild tits.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:55 pm
by guitar_davey
harmless wrote:If PJ want to rub off the grunge facade and become a widely-appealing classic rock band, I don't mind them doing it this way. I don't mind it at all.
"Grunge," as I'm sure you would agree harmless, is just a media-concocted label that has nothing to do with music anyway.
To me, what happened in the early 90s, musically-speaking, was that hard rock and punk music ditched the excess, the strippers, the private jets and all the other bullshit and started being about the music again. I don't think *any* of the music was that groundbreaking other than reintroducing some music with heart to a younger generation.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by stupidmop
sward wrote:stupidmop wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I just heard these a couple of times today. There is an implied urgency in all 4. I seem to remember that word being used a lot about Backspacer also, but this is different.
Leaves me wondering are these the high energy points of the record and is the rest all dark and moody?
Think I'd be ok with that. It's all going to come down to sequencing if this turns out to Be the case
I feel like these are all the filler tracks.
That should frighten you as it would be odd to give out all the weakest songs in a sampler, no? I really have no idea.
Well if these are the best tracks this albums gonna suck hard.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by solace
also, this wasn't a radio station sampler, it was 4 songs sent to MLB for use in post-game broadcast montages.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by Coach
Dah! Can't find this anywhere. Someone killed the Google account. WTF.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by Jorge
solace wrote:guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.
- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002
You can't say you don't see where the comparison is coming from though. Especially in the verses.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by stip
Coach wrote:stip wrote:basically the people who were largely done with pearl jam haven't liked it, and the people who aren't seem pretty excited by the new material.
sounds like I'll like it.
it IS a logical extenstion of Backspacer in that it's got songs coming from a similar mindset with more interesting execution.
Or maybe they're just newer. Hopefully the former. I think they're good. L-bolt may be the only one of this batch I love. We'll see if they are peaking because they are new or if they are going to grow on me as they become familiar and are situated within the album. Could go either way based on past practice. I tried to hedge my bets in the review.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by harmless
Heathen wrote:Total hot rod biker bar 50's greaser feel
keep'em coming
With a slightly happier chorus.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by Thejambi
Coach wrote:Dah! Can't find this anywhere. Someone killed the Google account. WTF.
Oh coach.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:57 pm
by Heathen
harmless wrote:Heathen wrote:Total hot rod biker bar 50's greaser feel
keep'em coming
With a slightly happier chorus.
phew
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:57 pm
by solace
theplatypus wrote:solace wrote:guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.
- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002
You can't say you don't see where the comparison is coming from though. Especially in the verses.
i can hear it.
i can also call it out for being lazy and a SUPER super generalized comparison. it has way more in common with Led Zeppelin than The Black Keys
the chorus melody sounds like The Beatles tho
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:58 pm
by guitar_davey
solace wrote:guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.
- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002
The guitar tone and the riff in the verses sounds like it's in the same vein as Howlin' For You or a song like that. The entire song doesn't sound like Black Keys, but that main riff definitely evokes the same kind of feel.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:58 pm
by stupidmop
guitar_davey wrote:harmless wrote:If PJ want to rub off the grunge facade and become a widely-appealing classic rock band, I don't mind them doing it this way. I don't mind it at all.
"Grunge," as I'm sure you would agree harmless, is just a media-concocted label that has nothing to do with music anyway.
To me, what happened in the early 90s, musically-speaking, was that hard rock and punk music ditched the excess, the strippers, the private jets and all the other bullshit and started being about the music again. I don't think *any* of the music was that groundbreaking other than reintroducing some music with heart to a younger generation.
I wouldn't mind if pearl jam put a little dirt back into thier music though, in fact I'd welcome it
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:58 pm
by sward
Thejambi wrote:If these songs are the "weaker" songs this album is going to be wild tits.
I'm in agreement! Loving it.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:58 pm
by Monkey_Driven
harmless wrote:If PJ want to rub off the grunge facade and become a widely-appealing classic rock band, I don't mind them doing it this way. I don't mind it at all.
I've never really viewed the band as "grunge rock". They've always sounded closer to a classic rock band to me.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 8:59 pm
by solace
guitar_davey wrote:solace wrote:guys. LTRP sounds *FUCKING NOTHING* like The Black Keys.
- Sincerely, a Black Keys fan since 2002
The guitar tone and the riff in the verses sounds like it's in the same vein as Howlin' For You or a song like that. The entire song doesn't sound like Black Keys, but that main riff definitely evokes the same kind of feel.
right. both are just based on 12 bar blues, which is the basis for about a million songs
