Red Mosquito

meatwad wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:less about trying to convert the most extreme elements, who you’re never going to reach, but rather working on the minds that either haven’t been made up yet or are so apathetic because of the current climate that they don’t want to hear any of it. Nearly 50% of eligible voters don’t vote after all.

Statistically speaking, this is one of the most susceptible groups to misinformation that has ever been studied. On average they know much less about American current events or political figures than anybody else, including citizens of some European countries. They are far more likely to be the victims of online scams than any voting group, and half of them rank themselves as at least a little skeptical about the theory of evolution.

Really, a desire to make this a politically engage-able group is the best argument I’ve ever heard for breaking up Facebook.

I’m not tracking how that group is any different than the current crop of Republicans.

maybe one day the candidates of the opposing parties will decide it's better to run together and at the last minute make the change

can someone just decide to have a different VP the night before?

what if they fall in love?

then we'd have a Prez / VP that is also the First Couple

Seriously though I think it’s a bit misguided to think it’s the same people sitting out every election. New voters enter the pool, old voters die, others sit out due to lack of enthusiasm for the candidates, etc.

Attracting younger voters is I think the sweet spot.

meatwad wrote:I’m not tracking how that group is any different than the current crop of Republicans.

Republicans vote.

I find the idea of a split ticket very appealing.

meatwad wrote:Seriously though I think it’s a bit misguided to think it’s the same people sitting out every election. New voters enter the pool, old voters die, others sit out due to lack of enthusiasm for the candidates, etc.

Attracting younger voters is I think the sweet spot.

I agree that engaging young voters is crucial. I think the lesson of 2018 was that young people, women, suburban voters, and people of color are irreplaceable voting groups. If they show up at 2018 levels, Republicans can’t beat their numbers any more than they can successfully appeal to their desires. If those groups don’t show up, Democrats lose. Hard stop.

So we should probably talk about what those groups want

all you will have to do to identify the 'sweet spot' is look at who Lyin' Pete is appealing to du jour

that guy has an optical cable running up his ass from his big data polling lab

tells him who to appeal to that day based on a complex algorithm that detects what stupid people want to hear and then he tells them that

later will be refined to hourly updates

also has settings for Pancake House, Cracker Barrel, County Fair, Late Night Show, and Koch Brother's Lair

96583UP wrote:all you will have to do to identify the 'sweet spot' is look at who Lyin' Pete is appealing to du jour

that guy has an optical cable running up his ass from his big data polling lab

tells him who to appeal to that day based on a complex algorithm that detects what stupid people want to hear and then he tells them that

later will be refined to hourly updates

also has settings for Pancake House, Cracker Barrel, County Fair, Late Night Show, and Koch Brother's Lair

How clever. Also, elitist asshole attitudes is exactly how we ended up with President Trump, so continued luck with that.

meatwad wrote:

96583UP wrote:all you will have to do to identify the 'sweet spot' is look at who Lyin' Pete is appealing to du jour

that guy has an optical cable running up his ass from his big data polling lab

tells him who to appeal to that day based on a complex algorithm that detects what stupid people want to hear and then he tells them that

later will be refined to hourly updates

also has settings for Pancake House, Cracker Barrel, County Fair, Late Night Show, and Koch Brother's Lair

How clever. Also, elitist asshole attitudes is exactly how we ended up with President Trump, so continued luck with that.

I'm just riffing on a theme

White, young 2018 voters listed their top motivating issues as undoing Trump administration immigration policies, protecting Roe v. Wade, overturning tax breaks for the rich, and gun control.

Young people of color listed racism, immigration and income inequality.

Women who voted in 2018 listed expanding healthcare as their top issue. Second was opposition to current immigration policies, and third was expanding gun control laws.

Non-White voters 35+ listed affordable health care, college affordability, and creating more jobs with benefits.

There are some themes.

i think all it takes is a candidate that projects confidence and leadership that has charisma and is a reasonably-good orator, and lots of money, and you can win with a moderate message and unite the legislature

plenty of dough to go around

at this point plenty of big corporations want healthcare reform too, they are tired of paying stadium pricing for their employees' health care plans

and they want student load debt to subside bc it leaches from consumers' ability to spend and borrow elsewhere in the economy

so that's two right there and the incentives are there just takes someone to get everyone together and donate enough to Mitch McConnell's wife's charity and we're all on the same page

Mickey wrote:

Bammer wrote:Mickey and/or Burt,

Explain to me how my day-to-day life will be any different if someone other than Trump wins the election. Aside from, of course, being inundated with media coverage about the president acting like an ass.

You're a white middle to upper class man with a professional career living in a major urban area at the outset of middle age, having already had children. It's going to take decades before your day to day life changes.

I’ll get back to you on this after my 2.4 kids go to bed and I lock the gate on my white picket fence.

it will take only a few days for the equity in your picket-fenced domicile to evaporate if a candidate wins and then breaks up Microsoft and Amazon

96583UP wrote:it will take only a few days for the equity in your picket-fenced domicile to evaporate if a candidate wins and then breaks up Microsoft and Amazon

Bloomy tell you that?

96583UP wrote:i think all it takes is a candidate that projects confidence and leadership that has charisma and is a reasonably-good orator

Biden 2020

Simple Torture wrote:

96583UP wrote:i think all it takes is a candidate that projects confidence and leadership that has charisma and is a reasonably-good orator

Biden 2020

Shut up, you damn liar!

We're taking Biden out of the mix now, right? I mean, just until we start deciding the Presidency based on push-up contests or arm wrestling.

That Biden thing was so obviously staged and scripted. He's an OK actor but it's obvious to me. I can spot scripted acting as easily as hair plugs.