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Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 6:58 am
by Norah
and the sword of the morning

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:02 am
by Simple Torture
Unless, of course, you're on the High-Sparrow-is-Howland-Reed bandwagon.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:02 am
by Norah
no that's fucking stupid

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:52 am
by Simple Torture
The only secret identity I buy into is that the grave digger is the hound. Daario is not Benjen Stark.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 12:07 pm
by doone
Mecca wrote:like, him being named Walder after Walder Frey adds some color to the world
It was Willis wasn't it? and the only way it will be significant is when we find out what happened to him so that he is only able to say "hodor" now. Something traumatized him.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:16 pm
by Zantac Junkie
Simple Torture wrote:We literally know next to nothing about how the whole three-eyed raven thing works.
I was hoping they were going to delve a little more into who the three-eyed raven really is. They included the line about "a thousand eyes, and one" when Bran first met him, but he's still referring to him as "the three-eyed raven" after spending a year with him in the cave. So I guess that ship has sailed.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:26 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Zantac Junkie wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:We literally know next to nothing about how the whole three-eyed raven thing works.
I was hoping they were going to delve a little more into who the three-eyed raven really is. They included the line about "a thousand eyes, and one" when Bran first met him, but he's still referring to him as "the three-eyed raven" after spending a year with him in the cave. So I guess that ship has sailed.
Thia episode didn't really have room for a lot of exposition. They could still delve into it a bit in future episodes, but you never know.

Man, I've been waiting for some Tower of Joy action since I first read the books years ago. Looks like it is happening next week!

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:07 pm
by Simple Torture
Interesting line of discussion, inspired by the AV Club's expert review today: does Jon's resurrection open the door for Lady Stoneheart? It sure seems like the Kingsmoot was delayed so that the death of Balon lined up with Melisandre's loss of faith--now that all the kings she cursed are dead, it gives some credence to her power. Delaying Lady Stoneheart makes the same sort of sense: bringing her back last season (or even the one before) would have erased the (admittedly muted) tension surrounding whether Jon would rise again or now. Now that that's settled, Cat could certainly make an appearance.

I'm skeptical, as I feel that'd be just another storyline to try and squeeze into the hour they have every week. The Riverlands have been short-shifted for years, and I don't think they'll make a sudden dramatic return like the Iron Islands did last night.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:18 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Simple Torture wrote:Interesting line of discussion, inspired by the AV Club's expert review today: does Jon's resurrection open the door for Lady Stoneheart? It sure seems like the Kingsmoot was delayed so that the death of Balon lined up with Melisandre's loss of faith--now that all the kings she cursed are dead, it gives some credence to her power. Delaying Lady Stoneheart makes the same sort of sense: bringing her back last season (or even the one before) would have erased the (admittedly muted) tension surrounding whether Jon would rise again or now. Now that that's settled, Cat could certainly make an appearance.

I'm skeptical, as I feel that'd be just another storyline to try and squeeze into the hour they have every week. The Riverlands have been short-shifted for years, and I don't think they'll make a sudden dramatic return like the Iron Islands did last night.
Didn't the trailer have a brief snippet of a character in Riverrun?

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:19 pm
by Mike
If there ever was the right time it would be now. I'm pretty sure we're getting some sort of Riverlands storyline this season as the casting was suggesting it. Jaime might have his Riverlands arc now and Brienne could do whatever after getting Sansa to Jon. (Going home and crossing the Riverlands while doing so?) Whether that means Stoneheart will appear...I'm not sure about that. It would be the right timing, though, because everything relevant to her story might happen now.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:20 pm
by Mike
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ian_McShane
This casting.
And I think there was some casting that sounded like the Brotherhood without Banners?

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:25 pm
by Simple Torture
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Interesting line of discussion, inspired by the AV Club's expert review today: does Jon's resurrection open the door for Lady Stoneheart? It sure seems like the Kingsmoot was delayed so that the death of Balon lined up with Melisandre's loss of faith--now that all the kings she cursed are dead, it gives some credence to her power. Delaying Lady Stoneheart makes the same sort of sense: bringing her back last season (or even the one before) would have erased the (admittedly muted) tension surrounding whether Jon would rise again or now. Now that that's settled, Cat could certainly make an appearance.

I'm skeptical, as I feel that'd be just another storyline to try and squeeze into the hour they have every week. The Riverlands have been short-shifted for years, and I don't think they'll make a sudden dramatic return like the Iron Islands did last night.
Didn't the trailer have a brief snippet of a character in Riverrun?
I seem to barely recall someone saying Jaime goes to the Riverlands this season. But I searched through breakdowns of the trailers and didn't find anything.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:31 pm
by Zantac Junkie
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Interesting line of discussion, inspired by the AV Club's expert review today: does Jon's resurrection open the door for Lady Stoneheart? It sure seems like the Kingsmoot was delayed so that the death of Balon lined up with Melisandre's loss of faith--now that all the kings she cursed are dead, it gives some credence to her power. Delaying Lady Stoneheart makes the same sort of sense: bringing her back last season (or even the one before) would have erased the (admittedly muted) tension surrounding whether Jon would rise again or now. Now that that's settled, Cat could certainly make an appearance.

I'm skeptical, as I feel that'd be just another storyline to try and squeeze into the hour they have every week. The Riverlands have been short-shifted for years, and I don't think they'll make a sudden dramatic return like the Iron Islands did last night.
Didn't the trailer have a brief snippet of a character in Riverrun?
There's a shot of Brienne and Pod standing in front of a Tully banner, and there's also a brief shot of Pod getting grabbed around the neck by Bronn, with a Lannister banner in the background. So I'm guessing that Sansa sends Brienne south to find Arya after she reaches the Wall, and Brienne ends up liaseing between camps during the siege of riverrun. Which definitely opens the door for LSH.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:33 pm
by Zantac Junkie
Also:
Spoiler: show
Paul Kaye (Thoros of Myr) is likely returning this season.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:12 pm
by Norah
Zantac Junkie wrote:Also:
Spoiler: show
Paul Kaye (Thoros of Myr) is likely returning this season.
Also,
Spoiler: show
the Blackfish
is supposed to be back this season.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:27 pm
by Meddle
Simple Torture wrote:I seem to barely recall someone saying Jaime goes to the Riverlands this season. But I searched through breakdowns of the trailers and didn't find anything.
This isn't definitive, but I would guess this is in the Riverlands.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:29 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Meddle wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:I seem to barely recall someone saying Jaime goes to the Riverlands this season. But I searched through breakdowns of the trailers and didn't find anything.
This isn't definitive, but I would guess this is in the Riverlands.
Yes, most likely the siege.

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:37 pm
by Mecca
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:A big debate I see on the westeros.org forums is whether bran is stuck in the cave forever or not. You can't get any more clear than "he won't be here forever".
I mean...he walked out of the cave tonight.
Well, Hodor carried him, but you know what I mean.
I'm just saying, all those people who were all "he's never leaving that cave!" can suck it.
He's unstuck in time

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:41 pm
by Mecca
Simple Torture wrote:Interesting line of discussion, inspired by the AV Club's expert review today: does Jon's resurrection open the door for Lady Stoneheart? It sure seems like the Kingsmoot was delayed so that the death of Balon lined up with Melisandre's loss of faith--now that all the kings she cursed are dead, it gives some credence to her power. Delaying Lady Stoneheart makes the same sort of sense: bringing her back last season (or even the one before) would have erased the (admittedly muted) tension surrounding whether Jon would rise again or now. Now that that's settled, Cat could certainly make an appearance.

I'm skeptical, as I feel that'd be just another storyline to try and squeeze into the hour they have every week. The Riverlands have been short-shifted for years, and I don't think they'll make a sudden dramatic return like the Iron Islands did last night.
I was thinking last night about how fucking long ago she burned those leeches. In the books it happens within a few chapters of each other. Felt like that whole "how much power does the lord of light actually hold?" Feeling the books gave me is lost on the show

Re: A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:41 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I am so happy that the Mereen storyline is going somewhere. Tyrion unshackling the dragons was a cool moment.