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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 7:16 pm
by Strat
"We should have taken the oil. You wouldn't have ISIS if we took the oil."
Critics have said that taking Iraq's oil would have been stealing from civilians and thus a war crime, a violation of international law. The President repeatedly campaigned on bombing Iraq oil fields to keep ISIS from profiting off of oil.
"Can you believe that? Who are the critics that say that? Fools. I don't call them critics. I call them fools," Trump said.
But the President said the US has spent trillions fighting ISIS, but that could have been avoided had the Americans just taken the terrorists oil.
Trump originally said that "maybe we'll have another chance," but he was noncommittal about what he specifically meant.
"We'll see what happens. I mean, we're going to see what happens. You know, I told you and I told everybody else that wants to talk, when it comes to the military, I don't want to discuss things. I want to let -- I want to let the action take place before the talk takes place," he said.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 7:29 pm
by washing machine
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
washing machine wrote:Looks like whoever transcribed the inauguration speech on whitehouse.gov slightly amended that line that matched up with a quote from The Dark Knight Rises.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/inaugural-address
we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People.
This is really fucked up
It does say "As Prepared for Delivery" at the top, which means he just skipped over that word while reading, probably.
Funny that I can read the lines in the actual speech so closely, yet miss that disclaimer. Bias is a real thing. :oops:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 7:58 pm
by McParadigm
4/5 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
McParadigm wrote:The State Department’s entire senior management team just resigned

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/jos ... fce986814e
Part of me loves seeing people refuse to participate in this administration. I love seeing people walk out. But at the same time, if all the people who oppose Donald and his bat-shittery leave, who fights him? Is this really a good thing? He's just going to replace these openings with people who will follow him straight into hell, right?
I might be misremembering, but I believe all of those who resigned have senior positions that were confirmed by the Senate and therefore serve at the pleasure of the president. If that's the case, they weren't long for their jobs anyway.
You may be right that Team Trump would eventually replace them, but:
All are career foreign service officers who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:06 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Yeah presidents don't usually just come in and replace FSOs on a whim. Most of them are and have been very established in whatever country they are serving and are valuable no matter what their political beliefs may be.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:16 pm
by Strat
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/ryan-expla ... 3407171813

House Speaker Paul Ryan says former President Obama used executive orders “to exceed his power,” and that President Trump is “restoring the proper balance.”


oh, okay. Gotcha. Thanks

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:25 pm
by bune
It's just alternative facts, come on guys.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Okay I think I'm ready for a violent overthrow now

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:30 pm
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Okay I think I'm ready for a violent overthrow now
now you have something to live for!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:35 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/video/ryan-explains-how-obama-trump-differ-in-executive-order-approach-863407171813

House Speaker Paul Ryan says former President Obama used executive orders “to exceed his power,” and that President Trump is “restoring the proper balance.”


oh, okay. Gotcha. Thanks
What a fucking tool.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:47 pm
by McParadigm
LOL @ Mexico will pay for the wall by Americans paying more for goods.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:51 pm
by jwfocker
Man what the fuck is going. Seriously. Someone. This shit can't be real. Right?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 8:54 pm
by Birds in Hell
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:This is something:
Jesus Christ
The headline is inaccurate, in that the article states Trump has ordered a public record be made available of crimes committed by illegal immigrants - not simply immigrants.

I can see the argument that it could arguably place people at risk, depending on the level of detail provided, but I can also see (being charitable) that it assists in creating conditions whereby people who've immigrated illegally are motivated to leave and a provides a disincentive towards immigrating illegally.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:32 pm
by pepperwhiteMFC
McParadigm wrote:LOL @ Mexico will pay for the wall by Americans paying more for goods.
This is all speculation:

#1 - giving out work permits to undocumented workers because we don't have the man-power to build it ourselves
#2 - we'll buy cement from Cemex.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:35 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Birds in Hell wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:This is something:
Jesus Christ
The headline is inaccurate, in that the article states Trump has ordered a public record be made available of crimes committed by illegal immigrants - not simply immigrants.

I can see the argument that it could arguably place people at risk, depending on the level of detail provided, but I can also see (being charitable) that it assists in creating conditions whereby people who've immigrated illegally are motivated to leave and a provides a disincentive towards immigrating illegally.
Trump has been purposely skewing the narrative towards xenophobic hate since he started his campaign. This is going to make it so much worse.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:41 pm
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:This is something:
Jesus Christ
The headline is inaccurate, in that the article states Trump has ordered a public record be made available of crimes committed by illegal immigrants - not simply immigrants.

I can see the argument that it could arguably place people at risk, depending on the level of detail provided, but I can also see (being charitable) that it assists in creating conditions whereby people who've immigrated illegally are motivated to leave and a provides a disincentive towards immigrating illegally.
Trump has been purposely skewing the narrative towards xenophobic hate since he started his campaign. This is going to make it so much worse.
So, so, so many legal immigrants/permanent residents/citizens are going to end up on these lists. Do we really think the Trump administration is going to take the time to cross-check between different Miguel Rodriguezes?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:41 pm
by Birds in Hell
Forgive my ignorance here but this caused me to learn about "sanctuary cities" in the USA and they sound like a terrible idea.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:43 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:49 pm
by McParadigm
Evacuation

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 9:51 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE