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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:did a half mile on the treadmill

woo! running get's pretty addicting, leonard. keep at it.

Dev wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:did a half mile on the treadmill

woo! running get's pretty addicting, leonard. keep at it.

i never want to do it again and i'm about to stuff my face with bacon

run2death wrote:Ran next to a woman tonight at my gym doing 6-minute miles. I was doing 6:30s, but because her legs were so much shorter than mine, she looked like she was trashing me. I guess I have never been that close to a woman running that fast before. It was an impressive sight.

We chatted a bit and it turns out she's training to break the woman's masters record for the half marathon at Chicago in October. She's moving to Flagstaff in a month for altitude training. She told me her name and I had never heard of her. Googled her when I got home and sure enough, she has a sub 1:15 finish.

Did you get her number too?

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Dev wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:did a half mile on the treadmill

woo! running get's pretty addicting, leonard. keep at it.

i never want to do it again and i'm about to stuff my face with bacon

I know it sucks but just punish yourself. You never know when having a good cardiovascular base will come in handy in the future. Sometimes I calm my panic symptoms by reminding myself I can run two miles from danger without breaking a sweat.

New shoes and Superfeet coming today. Supposed to run a 10K race on Saturday but haven't been able to run more than 5 miles without pain in about 2.5 weeks. Ugh.

guestT wrote:New shoes and Superfeet coming today. Supposed to run a 10K race on Saturday but haven't been able to run more than 5 miles without pain in about 2.5 weeks. Ugh.

What's wrong with your foot?

New shoes and inserts are generally not the solution to foot problems.

Plantar fasciitis in left foot I think. I can run about 3 miles pain free, then it starts in my heel and moves toward the arch. When I'm just walking around in shoes like Doc Martins or anything with a firm heel it doesn't hurt at all, so I'm hoping the orthotic mimics that. Anecdotally, friends have told me it does help. If not, back to the doctor.

Stretching is the best cure for PF. I get it occasionally as I start to ramp up mileage in training. Your PF is likely flaring up at 3 miles because your calves are getting tight.

This is the best stretch for PF:


You may also try to focus on forefoot running more as that'll engage the top of you calves more than heel-striking, which typically engages the bottom of the calves more.

Regulars in this thread are probably sick of my minimalist rantings, but you should be careful with buying super padded "motion control" shoes and inserts. They'll alter your form. They could relieve you PF but destroy your knees. YOU should alter your form to relieve the pain or become more efficient NOT your shoes.

I've heard running in grass barefoot is good for your feet and I sometimes do this goofing around with a soccer ball at the field by my house.

verb_to_trust wrote:I've heard running in grass barefoot is good for your feet and I sometimes do this goofing around with a soccer ball at the field by my house.

In the summer, you can also try college campuses, since they're likely to be sparsely populated. I let my daughter loose recently and she ran for a few hours until she dropped:

I bet her feet feel great

Better than mine.

run2death wrote:Stretching is the best cure for PF. I get it occasionally as I start to ramp up mileage in training. Your PF is likely flaring up at 3 miles because your calves are getting tight.

This is the best stretch for PF:


You may also try to focus on forefoot running more as that'll engage the top of you calves more than heel-striking, which typically engages the bottom of the calves more.

Regulars in this thread are probably sick of my minimalist rantings, but you should be careful with buying super padded "motion control" shoes and inserts. They'll alter your form. They could relieve you PF but destroy your knees. YOU should alter your form to relieve the pain or become more efficient NOT your shoes.

Hey, thanks for the tips! I appreciate it. Calf tightness and leg tightness in general is definitely an issue for me. I've been doing a bunch of stretches like this one this week, rolling out with a tennis ball, etc. My feet are super wide and flat so no matter which approach I take with shoes it seems like something goes wrong.

It's funny you mention forefoot running, because the last time I ran pain-free (Sunday), I actually ran on my forefeet the whole way. Tried doing the same on Tuesday and was fine until mile 3. Probably just need to stretch more and cut back on the mileage for a while.

verb_to_trust wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Dev wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:did a half mile on the treadmill

woo! running get's pretty addicting, leonard. keep at it.

i never want to do it again and i'm about to stuff my face with bacon

I know it sucks but just punish yourself. You never know when having a good cardiovascular base will come in handy in the future. Sometimes I calm my panic symptoms by reminding myself I can run two miles from danger without breaking a sweat.

i'll try and do .6 miles next time

The only time I ever feel sane is during the hour or so after a run.

run2death wrote:Stretching is the best cure for PF. I get it occasionally as I start to ramp up mileage in training. Your PF is likely flaring up at 3 miles because your calves are getting tight.

This is the best stretch for PF:


You may also try to focus on forefoot running more as that'll engage the top of you calves more than heel-striking, which typically engages the bottom of the calves more.

Regulars in this thread are probably sick of my minimalist rantings, but you should be careful with buying super padded "motion control" shoes and inserts. They'll alter your form. They could relieve you PF but destroy your knees. YOU should alter your form to relieve the pain or become more efficient NOT your shoes.

The opposite. I love reading these posts. Very informative.

verb_to_trust wrote:The only time I ever feel sane is during the hour or so after a run.

During the run is better but yes.

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Dev wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:did a half mile on the treadmill

woo! running get's pretty addicting, leonard. keep at it.

i never want to do it again and i'm about to stuff my face with bacon

I know it sucks but just punish yourself. You never know when having a good cardiovascular base will come in handy in the future. Sometimes I calm my panic symptoms by reminding myself I can run two miles from danger without breaking a sweat.

i'll try and do .6 miles next time

It is ok to take breaks walking and go back to it.

The Super Bowl of ultra running (Western States 100) is this weekend and AZ's own Jim Walmsley is set to fucking destroy the course record.

My d*ck is getting hard.

Haven't they had record high in AZ this week?