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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:27 pm
by Strat
dimejinky99 wrote:Don’t make me come over there Strat.
It immediately set the tone for the incredible movie to come.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:30 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah, i hated the throwing the sable thing. One of the most ¨Fuck you guys, i dont like SW¨ moments from Rian.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:31 pm
by Strat
VinylGuy wrote:Yeah, i hated the throwing the sable thing. One of the most ¨Fuck you guys, i dont like SW¨ moments from Rian.
Don't be dumb.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:34 pm
by Kaius
I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:34 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:I absolutely love that he just chucked the saber. Comedy aside, I thought it was fantastic.
yup

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:35 pm
by stip
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:36 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:36 pm
by Anders
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Anders wrote:Has anyone changed opinion about TFA after TLJ was released? I always hated Starkiller Base, and have some other issues with the movie. I look forward to seeing it again though, and now with extra information about what is going to happen. I can also see people being more negative towards it, as a lot of what it built up was torn down.

I haven’t watched TFA since TLJ. I’m almost afraid to. Rians done away with so much from it.

I can’t make peace with Luke just throwin the saber over his shoulder.

It’s literally pissing all over the most awesome scene in TFA.
It does change that scene dramatically. Probably my favorite scene from TFA.

They could have done anything else and made the same point but a dramatic moment rather than play it for comedy.

The biggest misstep in the entire film for me. It was literally a fuck you to JJ and the entire audience.

And a message that this literally isn’t going to go the way you think.

Would have been infinitely more impactiful had they played it seriously rather than comedically.
Yes, even if he handed it back to her saying that she needed it more than him. Or doing a Obi-Wan thing, "this used to belong to me, but that was a long time ago".

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:37 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
true

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:43 pm
by Anders
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
true
He didn't have to be eager for a student, that's fine. The two issues are not connected the way I see it.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:47 pm
by dimejinky99
There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:47 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:I absolutely love that he just chucked the saber. Comedy aside, I thought it was fantastic.
100% agree. It was one of my favorite moments in the film. It had a great meta quality to it, too, which I loved. But it told us right away who Luke Skywalker is now in this story and I thought it was perfectly executed.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:48 pm
by Anders
dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
100% agree :thumbsup:

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:49 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:50 pm
by Kaius
dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
He seemed to be in a very "funny" or odd head space if you're asking me. Yoda-on-Dagobah like. What use did he have for a lightsaber? It was worthless to him.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:50 pm
by Kaius
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?
We don't.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:50 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
We think it's funny. I don't think Luke or Rey think it's funny. It perfectly jibes with Luke's head space. He even calls the thing a "laser sword" for crying out loud. And he uses the term so sarcastically. I think it makes all the sense in the world.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:50 pm
by epilogue
Kaius wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
He seemed to be in a very "funny" or odd head space if you're asking me. Yoda-on-Dagobah like. What use did he have for a lightsaber? It was worthless to him.
yup

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:51 pm
by dimejinky99
durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Kaius wrote:I find that dumb as well. It fit the tone of current Luke. He had no reason at that moment to just accept that saber, as if it should propel him to change his outlook on life and his place in the galaxy.
he wouldnt be in hiding if he was eager for a student
Though one might consider the fact he left a map with R2 so he could also be found if need be...

That is a disconnect of sorts.
Oh yeah. That's interesting. Remind me, do we know that Luke definitely gave R2 that piece of the map?

Can’t say for sure.

I fuckin love his reunion with R2 tho. And R2 giving him shit and Luke saying hey watch your language and then showing him the Leia hologram

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 5:51 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:There was a thousand other ways to do it and they chose they comedy route.

Does Luke seem like he’s in a fuckin funny headspace to you??

It contradicts especially where the character is at.

It was an FU from Johnson simple as that
We think it's funny. I don't think Luke or Rey think it's funny. It perfectly jibes with Luke's head space. He even calls the thing a "laser sword" for crying out loud. And he uses the term so sarcastically. I think it makes all the sense in the world.
If he called it a laser sword that makes it twice as bad.