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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:22 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:dprival78 wrote:brendan should've left his piano home for LB. it adds nothing, and it takes away space that could've easily been filled with guitars.
i love what the pianos add in lightning bolt
Yeah, they're totally not what keeps that from being a long term listen.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:24 pm
by melonhead4
BobSacremento wrote:First off long time lurker, first time poster here (and yes I won't lie the leaks inspired me to start up here
)
I am curious as to what people think of the quality of the songs compared to the previous 2 albums. I personally do find myself a fan more of the 90's era PJ but still love any and all albums they have put out. Is the stuff darker than Backspacer in any way?
Its just different, darker maybe...The songs just have a lot more depth, which I think is something that sets this band apart from a lot of other acts in the past 20 years...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:25 pm
by stupidmop
Will someone please tell me what AOR and MOR mean.
I guess I don't need them to be especially weird or dark for me to like the music/ find it cool but I'd like it to stop short or being what I think is cheesy, more than they used to be. As in all these spiritual faith related or new agey feel the earth humming lyrics and like that ltrp chorus, I understand not everyone finds these things cheesy and I guess I can respect the band for going down this route because that's where they are rather than going for faux angst cause they're 'grunge', but yeah still don't like listening to it.
I'm gonna offset the negativity in this post by saying I quite like getaway and am still excited to hear the rest of the album.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:26 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
"crashing waves" in lightning bolt, lol
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:27 pm
by dprival78
Hypnosomnia wrote:dprival78 wrote:brendan should've left his piano home for LB. it adds nothing, and it takes away space that could've easily been filled with guitars.
I´m still pissed and frustrated about this, more specifically the outro solo. Maybe this is an edit? One of the reviews reported that the song was 4:35, this is 4:14.
the bridge is shortened on this leak, compared to the live version, so maybe this is an edit (a single edit maybe?).
but yea, the bridge and the outro are hurt by the piano. pearl jam has two incredible guitarists, but instead we get brendan twinkling away. i really like this song, but at this point, i prefer the live, sans-bob version.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:31 pm
by G2F23
Please do not request commercially available material on the board
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:32 pm
by Rangi Guy
So - after searching around for a while - I thought I had stumbled across said holy grail of tracks - turned out to be what I can only describe as the sound of a hundred babies screaming. While arousing - not what I was looking for.....
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:35 pm
by BobSacremento
Its funny - when I heard these leaks the first time I wasn't into any of the tunes besides Lightning Bolt...
but on this third go around I am finding myself liking the tracks a bit more. I guess I just wanted to hear the dark and heavy PJ that I was disappointed but then just started listening to the songs for what they were and I am pleased with them
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:35 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Will someone please tell me what AOR and MOR mean.
I guess I don't need them to be especially weird or dark for me to like the music/ find it cool but I'd like it to stop short or being what I think is cheesy, more than they used to be. As in all these spiritual faith related or new agey feel the earth humming lyrics and like that ltrp chorus, I understand not everyone finds these things cheesy and I guess I can respect the band for going down this route because that's where they are rather than going for faux angst cause they're 'grunge', but yeah still don't like listening to it.
I'm gonna offset the negativity in this post by saying I quite like getaway and am still excited to hear the rest of the album.
MOR = Middle of the Road
AOR = Adult-Orientated Rock
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:36 pm
by LemonyLlama
dprival78 wrote:Hypnosomnia wrote:dprival78 wrote:brendan should've left his piano home for LB. it adds nothing, and it takes away space that could've easily been filled with guitars.
I´m still pissed and frustrated about this, more specifically the outro solo. Maybe this is an edit? One of the reviews reported that the song was 4:35, this is 4:14.
the bridge is shortened on this leak, compared to the live version, so maybe this is an edit (a single edit maybe?).
but yea, the bridge and the outro are hurt by the piano. pearl jam has two incredible guitarists, but instead we get brendan twinkling away. i really like this song, but at this point, i prefer the live, sans-bob version.
Or perhaps this leak is an early version and the full bridge will be on the final...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:36 pm
by bada
stupidmop wrote:Will someone please tell me what AOR and MOR mean.
Album Oriented Rock and Middle Of The Road. Basically mass appeal rock a la Journey. They are considered lame formats but like anything there are good bands that were played on those types of radio stations.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:36 pm
by stip
don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:36 pm
by Dugg
Not really feeling the Backspacer comparisons with these at all. Other than LB which IMO would instantly be the best song on that album. Mostly good stuff here and the songs seem to have a nice amount of energy or urgency that was missing on the last record. Anyways, I'm new hi
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:37 pm
by stupidmop
Thanks harmless and bada
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:37 pm
by Jorge
stip wrote:don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
RM
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:38 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
Well, the 22 year-old version, yes.
It's just something that people say who aren't that age and are embarrassed to play the stuff in front of their friends.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:39 pm
by Hypnos
theplatypus wrote:stip wrote:don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
RM
Donde estan los otros temas de los que hablaste?!!!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:39 pm
by stip
theplatypus wrote:stip wrote:don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
RM
exactly. that's why I don't buy this MOR AOR stuff. It's not like pearl jam has a fan base that suddenly stopped listening to the music they used to and started listening to the music their parents listen to. It's just that the stuff I listened to becomes the stuff my kids say their parents listen to
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:41 pm
by LemonyLlama
bada wrote:stupidmop wrote:Will someone please tell me what AOR and MOR mean.
Album Oriented Rock and Middle Of The Road. Basically mass appeal rock a la Journey. They are considered lame formats but like anything there are good bands that were played on those types of radio stations.
At the end of the day, we can't be mad at them for that. Maybe that's just them showing their age and not a conscious decision they made as songwriters. This happens to be a snapshot of where they are at in their lives. If they have a mass appeal, I won't like them less. Everyone wants to crucify BOB, but really people need to realize that if the album sucks, maybe the band is just writing shitty music.
I personally love what I'm hearing, and I'm glad it's not a retread of anything of theirs I've heard before. There are the obligatory comparisons that can be made, but they always challenge themselves to do something different, and there's nothing lazy about that.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Fri September 13, 2013 9:41 pm
by Hypnos
stip wrote:theplatypus wrote:stip wrote:don't adults usually listen to whatever they listened to when they were teenagers?
RM
exactly. that's why I don't buy this MOR AOR stuff. It's not like pearl jam has a fan base that suddenly stopped listening to the music they used to and started listening to the music their parents listen to. It's just that the stuff I listened to becomes the stuff my kids say their parents listen to
Technically, the Pearl Jam of the 90s it´s still Dad Rock.