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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:50 pm
by Anders
I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:51 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:56 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:57 pm
by Kaius
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
It's almost like people had subjectively different experiences watching the movie.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:57 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:57 pm
by Anders
Kaius wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
It's almost like people had subjectively different experiences watching the movie.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:58 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.
I agree with you.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 6:59 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.
I agree with you.
NO I AGREE WITH YOU GODDAMNIT

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 7:00 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.
I agree with you.
NO I AGREE WITH YOU GODDAMNIT
:heartbeat:

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 7:03 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.
I agree with you.
NO I AGREE WITH YOU GODDAMNIT
:heartbeat:
You guys should have a pillow fight.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 7:06 pm
by dimejinky99
I’d say LV is simply over the moon this thread is at the top of his feed again :)

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 7:12 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Anders wrote:I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.
There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.
Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.
I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.
I agree with you.
NO I AGREE WITH YOU GODDAMNIT
:heartbeat:
You guys should have a pillow fight.
What do you think I've been laying the ground work for this whole time?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 9:04 pm
by VinylGuy
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 9:23 pm
by Kaius
VinylGuy wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.
TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 9:26 pm
by Anders
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.
TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.
More like the PT in humor, more over the top than the OT.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 9:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.
TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.
More like the PT in humor, more over the top than the OT.
Definitely. That opening “Can he hear me?” stuff was almost out of Spaceballs. Intentionally deflating menace and seriousness is an odd choice.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 9:35 pm
by VinylGuy
That opening and Luke throwing the lightsaber were direct from Spaceballs. Its almost as if Rian was saying, guys...these movies are too much.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 10:06 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.
TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.
More like the PT in humor, more over the top than the OT.
Definitely. That opening “Can he hear me?” stuff was almost out of Spaceballs. Intentionally deflating menace and seriousness is an odd choice.
But it served both a tactical and character purpose. And the scene still maintained plenty of menace. So it worked and gave us something fairly fresh and unexpected. I thought it was a nice move. *shrugs*

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 10:39 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Kaius wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:The ¨laser sword¨ was an insult too.
:roll:

aren't you consistently bashing "fan boys"? This is the exact kind of thinking you claim to dislike.
Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.
TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.
More like the PT in humor, more over the top than the OT.
Definitely. That opening “Can he hear me?” stuff was almost out of Spaceballs. Intentionally deflating menace and seriousness is an odd choice.
But it served both a tactical and character purpose. And the scene still maintained plenty of menace. So it worked and gave us something fairly fresh and unexpected. I thought it was a nice move. *shrugs*
I have to agree with Verm here. That scene was dragged out too much. Maybe a short troll would have been OK.

But taking it that far just felt like a parody film where they take a joke and drive it to death, ala Spaceballs, Naked Gun, etc.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon December 18, 2017 10:50 pm
by epilogue
I need to see it again but I thought there was a reason whay it went on so long. Poe was intentionally stalling. Pretty sure this is addressed in the film. Or I'm remembering it wrong. But either way it worked for me.