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Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 3:25 pm
by darth_vedder
Strat wrote:I WAS THERE AND THAT MADE ME ANGRY
I was there too, and was very happy to finally hear Who You Are.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 4:30 pm
by littlecomment
Strat wrote:I WAS THERE AND THAT MADE ME ANGRY
I was there as well. Still unsure if it was simply a performance issue, or if one of the instruments was in the incorrect tuning?

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 5:08 pm
by HardTI
darth_vedder wrote:
HardTI wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
HardTI wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
HardTI wrote:Does anyone have a favorite live version of this song? I know it's a harder one to pull off live, but I gotta believe they nailed it more than a few times.
The only time they played it perfectly was Tampa 2000 - the version on TB2K. All of the other 2000 versions have various mistakes (usually by Mike). It was played so infrequently after 2000, they never came close again. The worst performance ever was probably Philly 2009 #2, which I unfortunately witnessed.
Ouch, I'm sorry you had to suffer through that. Luckily, I was at that Tampa show so I guess I got what I was looking for.
Thanks!
Uh, are you two forgetting the disaster in Washington, DC from 2008 when they attempted to play it?
I never heard it! It sounds epic as fuck though. Time to search the interwebs for it.
Fucking Mike. WTF man.
Evacuation is actually one of the few songs of theirs that I think sounds pretty darn cool tuned down.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 5:12 pm
by darth_vedder
littlecomment wrote:
Strat wrote:I WAS THERE AND THAT MADE ME ANGRY
I was there as well. Still unsure if it was simply a performance issue, or if one of the instruments was in the incorrect tuning?
Mike just stops playing, but looks like he keeps his guitar. Maybe he just didn't want to play it? Seems unlikely, but that is what it kind of looks like.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 5:14 pm
by HardTI
Man, I really miss this band.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Thu July 09, 2015 5:19 pm
by darth_vedder
Every time I hear Evacuation, I like it a little more and more.

Those songs I listed earlier, that I said I liked more than Evacuation, will likely change soon. Still though, to me it's not so much a knock on Evacuation, but rather an indication of how good the material was in that era. Eddie sure fooled me with his "writer's block". Binaural should have been better, and could have been better than No Code.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 12:29 am
by Kevin Davis
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:The Boston and Portland versions of "Evacuation" are both great -- flub-free if memory serves.
They are very close, but not totally flub-free. Mike always gets lost/confused somewhere. Tampa is the only version that I can say is 100% flub-free. Trust me. I tried to find another one. It probably doesn't matter though.
Sure enough: I played the Portland version today and Mike messes up the transitions both in and out of the bridge. Not conspicuously so, but it's definitely there if you listen.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 1:04 am
by Django Butterworth
That's gotta be an equipment issue.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 1:07 am
by Birds in Hell
Because Pearl Jam would never screw up live...?

*stifles laugh*

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 1:29 am
by The Argonaut
It seems pretty clear that he just doesn't know how to play. Maybe he's forgotten; more likely it's just too hard for him.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 1:41 am
by Django Butterworth
Birds in Hell wrote:Because Pearl Jam would never screw up live...?

*stifles laugh*
No, because he stops, tries again and then stops again.

If it's a fuck up, you shouldn't stop but if you do, you pick it back up when you get your bearings again.


That just doesn't look like a missed cue.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 2:16 am
by Leatherhead
Django Butterworth wrote:That's gotta be an equipment issue.

An equipment issue? Come on. :?



No problems immediately before or after attempting to play one of their best songs.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 2:37 am
by Django Butterworth
Um, did you notice the guitar switch before and after?

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 2:40 am
by Birds in Hell
Wait, what version are you talking about?

From the flow of the above conversation, I presumed the comment about equipment trouble was in reference to the Portland 2000 version (where Mike fudges some of the transitions, see Kevin's comment directly before).

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 2:42 am
by Django Butterworth
Leatherhead wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:That's gotta be an equipment issue.

An equipment issue? Come on. :?



No problems immediately before or after attempting to play one of their best songs.
This one.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 2:51 am
by Birds in Hell
Ah, well, in that case...

This video seems to show Jeff kind of flailing about during the verse, trying to find the right key to play the song in:



Definitely not a technical issue alone, though Mike could have been having some trouble.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Fri July 10, 2015 3:02 am
by littlecomment
Birds in Hell wrote:Ah, well, in that case...

This video seems to show Jeff kind of flailing about during the verse, trying to find the right key to play the song in:



Definitely not a technical issue alone, though Mike could have been having some trouble.
Agreed, Jeff is definitely off. Could be playing flat out wrong, or possibly trying to adjust to Mike's situation after their mini-huddle there.

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Sat July 11, 2015 11:20 am
by stip
As luck would have it, evacuation came up on my price home yesterday. It did not cause me to change my vote

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Sat July 11, 2015 11:21 am
by stip
Though I did listen, rather than skip, thanks to this thread

Re: Song of the Moment: Evacuation

Posted: Sat July 11, 2015 6:39 pm
by Norah
came up on your price home?