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Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 3:46 pm
by stip
warehouse wrote:digster wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:wtfisaledbetter? wrote:Yeah its a great idea if they quit cutting the shows up. Nobody really cares if Ed mentions Beth or whatever.. just leave the shows as is and release em.
I'm pretty sure they're not omitting mentions of Beth for the fans; I suspect Ed is probably doing it for himself and his current wife. And honestly, while as a listener I find it frustrating, as a husband I completely understand and respect why he does it.
That said, I would much prefer they do it this way and just omit the song altogether, rather than genetically modify the actual content of the song a la "Oceans" from Unplugged.
I kind of feel like having to go through the act of discussing and then excising something like that would be an extremely more awkward situation than just finding some other performance, or even just leaving it in.
agreed. "yeah hun, i used to be in love w/ that woman, thats why i sang her name". is that gonna end a marriage?
I would assume that these thoughts have crossed people's minds, and if no one was bothered they wouldn't be doing it.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 3:47 pm
by warehouse
stip wrote:warehouse wrote:digster wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:wtfisaledbetter? wrote:Yeah its a great idea if they quit cutting the shows up. Nobody really cares if Ed mentions Beth or whatever.. just leave the shows as is and release em.
I'm pretty sure they're not omitting mentions of Beth for the fans; I suspect Ed is probably doing it for himself and his current wife. And honestly, while as a listener I find it frustrating, as a husband I completely understand and respect why he does it.
That said, I would much prefer they do it this way and just omit the song altogether, rather than genetically modify the actual content of the song a la "Oceans" from Unplugged.
I kind of feel like having to go through the act of discussing and then excising something like that would be an extremely more awkward situation than just finding some other performance, or even just leaving it in.
agreed. "yeah hun, i used to be in love w/ that woman, thats why i sang her name". is that gonna end a marriage?
I would assume that these thoughts have crossed people's minds, and if no one was bothered they wouldn't be doing it.
so u think eddie vedder's wife is shallow enough to be offended that he used to sing the womans name he was in love with before he met her?
its fuckin lame no matter how you cut it.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 3:49 pm
by Strat
Maybe Beth has threatened to sue his ass? I dont know. Maybe she is pissed that she was cut out of his life cause she was a coont? Using her name in a song and selling the show? I dont know. Its the only really logical explanation
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:05 pm
by Jorge
Strat wrote:Maybe Beth has threatened to sue his ass? I dont know. Maybe she is pissed that she was cut out of his life cause she was a coont? Using her name in a song and selling the show? I dont know. Its the only really logical explanation
Yes, the only logical explanation is two different scenarios where the woman is a hysterical shrew. Nice one, lady-hater.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:07 pm
by warehouse
theplatypus wrote:Strat wrote:Maybe Beth has threatened to sue his ass? I dont know. Maybe she is pissed that she was cut out of his life cause she was a coont? Using her name in a song and selling the show? I dont know. Its the only really logical explanation
Yes, the only logical explanation is two different scenarios where the woman is a hysterical shrew. Nice one, lady-hater.
strat is kinda machismo
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:12 pm
by Strat
its just as logical, coming from complete assumptions on our part, as thinking Jill is a ho or Ed is a douche.
Maybe....
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:14 pm
by warehouse
i think we have more evidence of eddie vedder being a douche than we have anything on either of the 2 broads being terrible
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:15 pm
by Strat
Oh, backspacer isnt that bad.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:17 pm
by mastaflatch
anyway i thought Ed was singing "Ooh, Meth".
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:47 pm
by stupidmop
Maybe Eddie heard it being played back and thought 'omg i can't believe i sang her name, oh what a fool i was, can we get rid of it' and they did. And whoever's in charge of this shit figured the same applied any other time it came up.
Idk it doesnt bother me that much. Not until this starts happening anyway
broken iris wrote:Strat wrote:At least they aren't over dubbing..... "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrerarhhhhhhhhh jilllllllllllllllll arrrrrrrrr jillllllllllllllll aw huh, yea yea!"
I think you mean "iiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllll eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 4:54 pm
by dprival78
all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:00 pm
by bodysnatcher
dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.
shoulda said "beth and i"
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:03 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.
im pretty sure he did it all the way back in 94 on SNL, and ive seen it replayed a ton on Comedy Central, so no matter how much editing gets done, it will still be in places like that, though i dont imagine they will try to see a boot of the SNL performances they have done
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:13 pm
by dprival78
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.
im pretty sure he did it all the way back in 94 on SNL, and ive seen it replayed a ton on Comedy Central, so no matter how much editing gets done, it will still be in places like that, though i dont imagine they will try to see a boot of the SNL performances they have done
well, since eddie has a lot of free time these days (being semi-retired and all), i bet he spends a lot of time hidden away in his yoda cave watching old footage and listening to old tapes, flagging anything with any mention of she-who-should-not-be-named, so that his 10c flunkies can eventually scrub it out of existence.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:19 pm
by bodysnatcher
beth only has 200 followers on twitter

Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:20 pm
by Kevin Davis
warehouse wrote:stip wrote:warehouse wrote:digster wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:wtfisaledbetter? wrote:Yeah its a great idea if they quit cutting the shows up. Nobody really cares if Ed mentions Beth or whatever.. just leave the shows as is and release em.
I'm pretty sure they're not omitting mentions of Beth for the fans; I suspect Ed is probably doing it for himself and his current wife. And honestly, while as a listener I find it frustrating, as a husband I completely understand and respect why he does it.
That said, I would much prefer they do it this way and just omit the song altogether, rather than genetically modify the actual content of the song a la "Oceans" from Unplugged.
I kind of feel like having to go through the act of discussing and then excising something like that would be an extremely more awkward situation than just finding some other performance, or even just leaving it in.
agreed. "yeah hun, i used to be in love w/ that woman, thats why i sang her name". is that gonna end a marriage?
I would assume that these thoughts have crossed people's minds, and if no one was bothered they wouldn't be doing it.
so u think eddie vedder's wife is shallow enough to be offended that he used to sing the womans name he was in love with before he met her?
its fuckin lame no matter how you cut it.
It's not about shallowness, or about whether or not it's going to immediately result in a divorce; it's probably just a general respect Ed is trying to show his current wife. I mean, I know my wife had men in her life before me, but I wouldn't necessarily want her releasing any of her love letters to them to the public.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:22 pm
by broken iris
bodysnatcher wrote:dprival78 wrote:all those not for you's with the "small my table/sits just two.. me and beth" bits leave plenty of opportunities for eddie to piss us off in future vault releases.
shoulda said "beth and i"
You could probably make a decent youtube clip series of grammatically corrected rock songs.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:26 pm
by warehouse
Kevin Davis wrote:warehouse wrote:stip wrote:warehouse wrote:digster wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:wtfisaledbetter? wrote:Yeah its a great idea if they quit cutting the shows up. Nobody really cares if Ed mentions Beth or whatever.. just leave the shows as is and release em.
I'm pretty sure they're not omitting mentions of Beth for the fans; I suspect Ed is probably doing it for himself and his current wife. And honestly, while as a listener I find it frustrating, as a husband I completely understand and respect why he does it.
That said, I would much prefer they do it this way and just omit the song altogether, rather than genetically modify the actual content of the song a la "Oceans" from Unplugged.
I kind of feel like having to go through the act of discussing and then excising something like that would be an extremely more awkward situation than just finding some other performance, or even just leaving it in.
agreed. "yeah hun, i used to be in love w/ that woman, thats why i sang her name". is that gonna end a marriage?
I would assume that these thoughts have crossed people's minds, and if no one was bothered they wouldn't be doing it.
so u think eddie vedder's wife is shallow enough to be offended that he used to sing the womans name he was in love with before he met her?
its fuckin lame no matter how you cut it.
It's not about shallowness, or about whether or not it's going to immediately result in a divorce; it's probably just a general respect Ed is trying to show his current wife. I mean, I know my wife had men in her life before me, but I wouldn't necessarily want her releasing any of her love letters to them to the public.
i think its pretty shallow. its not like he's still singing "oh beth".
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:40 pm
by VinylGuy
Another great performance on this boot: Hail, Hail.
Re: Vault #3 - Constitution Hall, 9-19-1998 (vinyl, cd, digi
Posted: Tue June 11, 2013 5:41 pm
by broken iris
Not to get off topic, but would anyone have disliked it if the band hand spliced in the missing part of PM,PM from an audience recording?