Red Mosquito

This song has Brendan O'Brien's sticky goo all over it. Those sounds he's making on that fucking keyboard. It would have been right at home on the last two records, but sticks out like a sore thumb on here.

The ending is a different story and is absolutely one of the best moments on the album.

this song is absolutely helped by not being on an album full of songs like it

Wasn't "Retrograde" one of the songs mentioned in the Italian website's list of songs done during sessions for either Riot Act or S/T?

Mike wrote:I always forget everything about this song after it ended. I enjoy it when it plays but nothing sticks.

I am 100% on the same page. I wonder why it's so unmemorable

arthurdent wrote:Wasn't "Retrograde" one of the songs mentioned in the Italian website's list of songs done during sessions for either Riot Act or S/T?

no, it was not.

But it was one of the two songs recorded during the 'cant deny me' sessions with BO'B

theplatypus wrote:

Mike wrote:I always forget everything about this song after it ended. I enjoy it when it plays but nothing sticks.

I am 100% on the same page. I wonder why it's so unmemorable

It's probably the most tuneless song on the album

joostone wrote:

arthurdent wrote:Wasn't "Retrograde" one of the songs mentioned in the Italian website's list of songs done during sessions for either Riot Act or S/T?

no, it was not.

But it was one of the two songs recorded during the 'cant deny me' sessions with BO'B

That explains a lot

joostone wrote:

arthurdent wrote:Wasn't "Retrograde" one of the songs mentioned in the Italian website's list of songs done during sessions for either Riot Act or S/T?

no, it was not.

But it was one of the two songs recorded during the 'cant deny me' sessions with BO'B

What was the other song?

wow - so retrograde was one of the keepers?

I believe Retrograde is the only song from the Can’t Deny Me (album/sessions), that made Gigaton.

stip wrote:wow - so retrograde was one of the keepers?

I keep thinking about the “pile” of songs Stone mentioned in an interview/article, and I can’t help wondering about the songs that were left out/replaced by Retrograde.

And will they ever get out there?

dad wrote:

stip wrote:wow - so retrograde was one of the keepers?

I keep thinking about the “pile” of songs Stone mentioned in an interview/article, and I can’t help wondering about the songs that were left out/replaced by Retrograde.

And will they ever get out there?

And they also most likely had a full album ready with Can’t Deny Me, Retrograde and other songs.

now they can release pressure free lost dogs

I feel like BOB recorded the first 3.5 minutes and then Josh had them add in the last 1.5 minutes that sounds good.

7 Years and Maybe Longer wrote:I feel like BOB recorded the first 3.5 minutes and then Josh had them add in the last 1.5 minutes that sounds good.

100%

there's no way BoB allowed the ending

I complete get why the first 2/3 of the song can be unappealing to people because of how it resembles LB generic BoB BS, but I don’t get the hate this song gets. Even the first 2/3 are pleasant and set up the spectacular ending well.

I do wonder if this song will improve with a better quality rip.

Fattie_Vedder wrote:I complete get why the first 2/3 of the song can be unappealing to people because of how it resembles LB generic BoB BS, but I don’t get the hate this song gets. Even the first 2/3 are pleasant and set up the spectacular ending well.

Sounding like L-bollt and Backspacer isn't a problem for me, and the first part of this song isn't doing much either. I don't hate it by any means. It's okay. But it's okay on an album packed with standout moments

I know I’m in the minority here, but I really love this song. There’s a lot of thought put into the arrangement - can hear them holding themselves back throughout.

Ed’s approach to the melody - the way he actually sings it - is lyrical and dare I say...even beautiful throughout. His vocal approach here is akin to what he did in Better Days (it’s in a similar part of his voice).

The build up towards the end is clearly the standout section.

The overall production of the song is beautiful. I mean - there’s really not a song or moment on Gigaton that I dislike.

I played a few of the songs for my six-year old and she hated them all except this one which she really liked. So now I’m stuck with it for better or worse...